Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Giants yankees rivalry


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The result was   keep. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 23:23, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Giants–Yankees Rivalry

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Delete as a non-notable rivalry. They played in a few world series and were in the same city, but they barely play(ed) each other. Tavix | Talk  18:25, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Baseball-related deletion discussions.  -- Tavix |  Talk  18:51, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
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 * Delete. No evidence of notability. BRMo (talk) 22:57, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Cs-wolves  (talk)  04:22, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - Calling this a non-notable rivalry smacks of recentism. The two teams played within walking distance of each other for almost 60 years (heck, they shared a stadium for 10 of those years) and vied for the hearts of New York baseball fans (along with the 3rd New York City team).  During that time, they played 6 World Series against each other - more than many teams have even been in - including 2 that were played when they shared a stadium.  Does anyone really believe that 2 teams sharing a stadium that played in 2 consecutive World Series against each other would not have a notable rivalry?  And then, in the year the Yankees moved out, they found themselves in the World Series again?  Plus, the article is incorrect to the extent that San Francisco Giants did play the Yankees in the 1962 World Series, one of the closest ever.  Plus there was the bad blood between the teams from when the Giants "stole" the Yankees' hall of fame manager right before the Yankees moved to NY to compete against the Giants and Dodgers for the NY market; some of that bad blood becoming a factor in the cancellation of the 1904 World Series, which the Giants qualified for and the Yankees (then Highlanders) contended for. Rlendog (talk) 16:35, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment - In addition, there are at least two entire books largely devoted to the rivalry betwen these two teams (plus the Dodgers) just during the late 40s and 50s. . Rlendog (talk) 16:43, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Both of those books look like generic New York city baseball books. That doesn't mean it specifically discusses a rivalry. Tavix | Talk  01:50, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Why don't you think they specifically discuss the rivalries? From the Library Journal review of the first book: "Kahn again returns to an era he categorically states is "the greatest" in baseball history. Central to his description are the three New York clubs and the spirited rivalries [emphasis added] they produced." Rlendog (talk) 18:56, 8 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep - just because they rarely play doesn't mean the subject isn't historically notable. That said, can we move the article title to keep with conventions? matt91486 (talk) 23:59, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. I know it is kind of like saying other stuff exists, but a pairing which has provided several World Series and co-habited the same city for a long time must be at least as notable as supposed rivalries between teams who have only played each other since interleague play came about (eg Freeway Series). It would be recentist to argue against this article's concept. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 21:28, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
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