Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gilburri Fahy


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The result was delete. Anyone who wants this to me to work on outside mainspace should drop me a line Spartaz Humbug! 08:47, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

Gilburri Fahy

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I confess that I'm not even sure whether this meets WP:GNG. It's such a mess I can barely follow it. I attempted an A7 tag, but it was declined, so I'll let the community decide. Bbb23 (talk) 18:01, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 18:27, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 18:27, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 19:12, 25 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete I have been following this article for a while, because I wasn't sure if it was turning into something, and wanted to give the contributors time to work on it. Though over time more information was added, most of it is WP:OFFTOPIC and would be more suitable on other pages. At no point in this article is WP:NOTABILITY actually established (the infobox says 'Only white man to fight with the mob during Black War', which does not establish notability, and is not referenced anywhere in the article). All the sources about the subject are newspaper clippings, primarily with mentions in passing, none are actually main sources about the subject, so not counting towards WP:SIGCOV, and in my opinion the article is bordering on WP:ORIGINAL. I think the subject does not require it's own page (per WP:NOPAGE), but rather the mentions in John O'Connell Bligh, Dundalli and maybe Dalla people would suffice. Achaea (talk) 19:20, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment - is his time living with an Aboriginal tribe an unusual occurrence (at that time) - I'm conscious that notability will be different for someone who lived at the time Australia was a convict colony than it was now, and we need to be careful. Btw, I don't buy your original research claim - this is a biographical article not something trying to put forward an argument. Bookscale (talk) 13:34, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't know how unusual that is, but being unusual does not necessarily make it notable. I appreciate your note about historical notability, but I see no sources either at that time, or later looking back that describe the subject of the article in a way that meets WP:BASIC. Surely, if it would have been unusual to a level that it would be notable, other people would have written about it in secondary sources? I really don't see it passing any of the criteria in WP:NOTABILITY, but you're welcome to disagree. Achaea (talk) 15:15, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment - I don't know enough about the subject to categorically say one way or the other - I was merely asking the question. What I would say is that if there is notability it is likely to be established in sources that are not available online. I'm happy for this to be userfied to the talk page of the creating editor if that would allow the page to be maintained while further sources are found. Bookscale (talk) 23:19, 1 January 2020 (UTC)


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