Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gillian Genser


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The result was delete. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 02:53, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Gillian Genser

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Fails WP:BLP1E. The page cites major sources all from late 2018/early 2019 when she reported her poisoning. Searches in Canadian and American media are unable to find any other notability or mention of her. Yoninah (talk) 18:57, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
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 * Comment - I came across this BBC video about Genser and thought it was an interesting story. Once I saw that the Washington Post and CBC were covering her, too, I started the article. Typically if you see articles about someone in three sources like that, it's a pretty sure bet that they're going to be notable. But it's true that not a whole lot has surfaced other than those. I'll defer to others as to the right way to go. It still seems weird that we can't find anything other than the some of the highest-profile sources -- like, did she work under a different name before or something? Will keep searching. &mdash; Rhododendrites  talk \\ 00:37, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete I am not seeing a darn thing aside from the poisoning. No shows, no museums, no mentions. I agree that seeing the WaPo, CBC and BBC coverage initally portends notability: there is a simply staggering amount of high-quality coverage of the poisoning. But nowhere in a search did I find any mention of her every having had an exhibition, a dealer, a review or any other typical indicators that point to someone being a professional artist. I could not even find an event announcement that said she was having a show anywhere. This is WP:BIO1E and WP:NOTNEWS to me, as it is essentially a news story about a non-notable artist who got blood poisoning. There is zero evidence that she has any kind of art career in the public sphere whatsoever.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 04:09, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete basically just a one event coverage.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:46, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect to an an article about the Adam sculpture per WP:SIGCOV, WP:ATD-R, and WP:BIO1E. TJMSmith (talk) 01:43, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * The sculpture has never been shown, as far as I can find in an extensive search. We don't have articles on artworks that have never been shows or recognized in the art world, do we?ThatMontrealIP (talk) 01:52, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * A couple notes: Presumably means to rename or retitle/reframe rather than redirect (redirect presumes there's already an article). But also, we can satisfy GNG or NARTIST. As an artist it doesn't seem like she qualifies, but whether someone shows anything anywhere is irrelevant to GNG. All that matters is the coverage. Of course, that assumes that she meets GNG. Probably the best case (which isn't to say a compelling case) is perhaps to frame in terms of the sculpture or in terms of e.g. "Poisoning of Gillian Genser" or something. Still a difficult case to make, though, given most of the coverage is from a relatively narrow span of time. &mdash;  Rhododendrites  talk \\ 18:34, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I see where you are going there, but as a standalone article this is just a news story about an amateur artist with zero professional recognition who was poisoned by her work. If we could find an article about the occupational hazards of art making (it's a thing, source, source, source, source, source for "Painter's Colic", source), then it would be appropriate to include her story as part of the broader subject.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 18:40, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
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