Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gina Din


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The result was no consensus.  Sandstein  11:45, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Gina Din

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Highly promotion article. I don't believe this person is notable. There are claims about winning a Stevie Awards - which you have pay to enter the running for. All the other claims are pretty run of the mill for someone doing a job Gbawden (talk) 08:52, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
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 * Leaning Delete. None of the sources, near as I can tell, are reliable sources by our definition. If the subject is notable, surely there are articles somewhere that would indicate that? She does exist, and that's good as far as it goes, but there needs to be more there there. UltraExactZZ Said~ Did 15:31, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi, just curious as to how this page can be improved to meet Wikipedia standards. Is it possible for a breakdown on the possible improvement could be given? I know this isn't necessarily part of the job but would really appreciate any help. This is a person who I feel is notable enough to have a Wikipedia page, I just need some advice on how to correctly present it. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 197.232.26.207 (talk) 17:58, 17 July 2015 (UTC)


 * The most important thing would be to show why this person is Notable. What makes her important? We usually accomplish this by showing that news organizations have written about this person in a way that demonstrates her importance or accomplishments. Most of the sources here seem to be press releases and the like, and this usually means that the subject or someone related to the subject (or their organization/employer) had that information published. We need sources that are entirely independent of the subject. Have a look at our policy on Reliable Sources for some guidance as to which sources would work. UltraExactZZ Said~ Did 19:03, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for the advice, i will try and make appropriate changes — Preceding unsigned comment added by 197.232.26.207 (talk) 19:24, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment I think this article goes beyond the information in the sources, and appears to be promotional in nature. There are some sources that seem to be reliable, in particular the Red Cross award, the AptanTech, and the allAfrice stories (of which there are many more than are listed here). It would be ideal, though, to get someone familiar with African sources to weigh in. If these are considered reliable, then the article should be kept. The many uses of her own web site should be removed, along with information that cannot be sourced else, however. LaMona (talk) 01:07, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, &mdash;&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·E·C) 20:29, 24 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep Much cruft obviously (removed as of July 30 2015); while a self-promoter type, she appears well-connected in Africa, with enough coverage to meet the WP:GNG.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 21:42, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment Gina Din is notable, looking up her on Google finds that she is somewhat known (as Tomwsulcer points out above). Right now, the article fails Wikipedia's verifability policy, but the Red Cross award and many of the awards she was given are notable which would pass WP:GNG. Will vote keep or delete if notable sources are added. MrWooHoo (talk) 03:31, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.  The article notes: "Gina Din-Kariuki, Kenya Arguably, Din-Kariuki has the most valuable Rolodex in East Africa and is the must-go-to person for anyone who wants to do business in Kenya. For the last 13 years she has built her Kenyan PR management firm into one of the leading companies in the industry. Din-Kariuki is a close follower of the digital sector and how this affects brand management; as the media platforms increase so does the space in which to control a brand. Din-Kariuki plays an active philanthropic role, serving in various capacities including Goodwill Ambassador of the Kenya Red Cross."  Archiveurls for the other pages: 2, 3, and 4.  There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Gina Din to pass Notability, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Cunard (talk) 06:24, 1 August 2015 (UTC)</li></ul>


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