Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ginny Holder


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Looking at the rationales on both side of the argument, consensus is keep. (non-admin closure)  Onel 5969  TT me 14:09, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

Ginny Holder

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Certainly questionably notable and improvable with its current state and I found some links here, here and here but there's simply nothing better aside from that fact she had 39 episodes of Holby City (best known basically it seems). It's also interesting to note that although this hasn't changed much since starting in November 2009, an SPA account added this version and then simply blanked the entire page (not sure if it was the subject or not, although if it was, I'm not sure why the article actually says she was born in both Brooklyn, New York and London, England). Notifying past taggers, and also  and  who may have some insight with this, although this seems certainly seems non-notable. SwisterTwister  talk  03:32, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions.  SwisterTwister   talk  03:35, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions.  SwisterTwister   talk  03:35, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Well... that SPA had copied information from an Vanessa Ferlito so his striking was proper. But in my following guideline instructions and diregarding current state and actually looking at Ginny's career it seems more than likely that WP:NACTOR is met. Did you look first, or simply judge a poor stub?  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 04:14, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
 * It occurred to me now, considering "Ferlito". You know I always look and I searched as much as I could and I found nothing which is not surprising considering her list of work. I wish you wouldn't be so serious with your tone sometimes BTW . SwisterTwister   talk  04:24, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, you've pinged me at a few dozen AFDs where the topics have been improved and kept. Just thought you might like to improve some yourself rather than bring notable topics to AFD for others to work on. WP:NOTCLEANUP. Cheers,  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 05:45, 22 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep for career meeting WP:NACTOR. Apart from her 39 episodes of Holby City and her joining the cast receiving specific coverage, she did star in 20 episodes of Family Affairs, and was in 3 of The Bill... and it does seem there are newspaper archives speaking toward her work in Wing Commander. Time to fix, not delete.  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 05:58, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete I very much doubt that single name mentions within lists of dubiously notable actor names is going to provide significant foundation for an article, and I say that having reviewed every article returned by the search given above. Certainly nothing has been offered which suggests the slightest hope that this topic will meet GNG or BASIC. No objection to a redirect to Wing Commander, however, if the actress is mentioned there, I simply believe that our usual notability bar is very far from being met in this case. --joe deckertalk 07:04, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Joe, I am sorry that you discount the representative example of more-than-trivial coverage found in Metro or that you seem to disagree with WP:ENT telling us that a verifiable body of work can show notability even in the lack of WP:SIGCOV. Perhaps we should simply delete WP:BASIC and WP:ENT and all other SNGs that might supplement GNG (chuckle).  But until they are deleted, I choose to follow what guideline tells us as clarified in an essay... that while the GNG is our strong crutch, some actors keep a low media profile, and so the GNG is not the only means by which an actor can be determined notable. Thanks,  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 21:04, 23 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep. Her role in Holby City is significant. Wing Commander (film) looks so too (based on reviews). Her Own Rules looks notable and her role there looks significant. Her 1995 stage production of 'Tis Pity She's a Whore appears notable and her role (Annabella) significant. That's enough roles for WP:NACTOR. duffbeerforme (talk) 07:32, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Her Own Rules
 * 'Tis Pity She's a Whore
 * 'Tis Pity She's a Whore
 * 'Tis Pity She's a Whore
 * 'Tis Pity She's a Whore


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