Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gino O'Boyle


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The result was delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 21:46, 22 June 2019 (UTC)

Gino O'Boyle
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Non notable local politician. Articles are for TDs. Doesn't make criteria IMO CivisHibernius (talk) 20:30, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Merge to his father's article Seamie O'Boyle which is more notable even though it is also at AFD Atlantic306 (talk) 20:50, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 21:37, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 21:38, 15 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep Let's look at the bolded parts of WP:NPOL -- Politicians and judges who have held international, national, or sub-national (e.g., province- or state-wide) office, or have been members of legislative bodies at those levels. This person is a politician who is a member of a legislative body at sub-national level - in this case of a first-level administrative division. Ireland's appearance in List of administrative divisions by country has counties as a first-level administrative division. Therefore, the subject should meet WP:NPOL as a subnational legislator. FoxyGrampa75 (talk) 02:45, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
 * O'Boyle may pass the WP:general notability guideline, but not WP:NPOL. Irish county councils are not legislative bodies. Phil Bridger (talk) 07:12, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Counties are not states or provinces. Bearcat (talk) 15:53, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
 * The wording contains the phrase "e.g." which implies the inclusion of anything other than states and provinces. FoxyGrampa75 (talk) 12:30, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Not all countries call their state/province-level divisions "states" or "provinces" — for example, Poland's are called voivodeships and Japan's are called prefectures and Russia's are called federal subjects, but they're still functionally equivalent to states or provinces. It says "e.g." to establish that the rule is not limited to places that use the terms state or province, but includes the equivalent level of government in places that call them "voivodeships" or "prefectures" or "federal subjects" instead of states or provinces, and is not intended to uplift mere counties. The rule is not that countries like Ireland, where the provinces are purely ceremonial and aren't used as an actual unit of government, get to upsell their county councils into the state/provincial level of government just because there isn't another state/province level between them and the Oireachtas: the counties are a unit of local government run by a council to manage and run "planning, transport infrastructure, sanitary services, public safety (notably fire services) and the provision of public libraries", not a state or province equivalent run by a legislature with the power to pass its own laws. Bearcat (talk) 12:41, 21 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete - not notable local politician. Fails WP:Politician. Spleodrach (talk) 10:01, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - Local councillors in Ireland do not meet WP:NPOL. This particular local councillor also doesn't meet WP:GNG. Guliolopez (talk) 17:21, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete Member of the Sligo County Council. Does not pass WP:NPOL as it is expected that members of a county council are expected to receive national or international coverage of the subject with sufficient content. --Enos733 (talk) 17:04, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. NPOL #1 covers state or provincial legislators, and does not extend down to the county council level: county councillors are local politicians covered under NPOL #2, and do not reify into state legislators just because the country doesn't have states. But for the purposes of establishing that a county councillor passes NPOL #2 it's not enough to just show that some local press coverage exists, because some local press coverage of all county councillors always exists — to get him in the door, what the coverage would need to show is a convincing reason why he could credibly claim to be significantly more notable than most other county councillors, such as nationalizing coverage. Bearcat (talk) 13:30, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Please see the above comment I made to your first comment. 12:30, 21 June 2019 (UTC)


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