Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Giora Yaron


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The result was no consensus.  Sandstein  19:38, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

Giora Yaron

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Found this article when Draft:Itamar Medical came to the attention of the Teahouse, and the procedural history made me look at the author's other contributions. Pinging who accepted the article at AfC back in 2018.

The question is notability. There are 23 sources in the current article, none of which meet the SIGCOV standard in my eyes. I will refer to their current numbering.

I found two that could plausibly support GNG. #11 smells of an interview and the photograph is sourced to "PR" (press release?), so probably not independent, but it does look like an article. #14 is written like an opinion piece, so I assume that is what it is (side note, if the article is kept based on that, the contents of this source accuse him of mismanagement, which is absolutely not mentioned in the current article). Furthermore, I cannot read 4 (in Hebrew and not easily copy-pastable into a translation tool), but looking at the inline referencing I suppose it just proves the physics PhD part.

The rest fall into two buckets:
 * 1) In the "not independent" bucket, we have multiple interviews (2, 8, 16 if my automated translation is correct, 22 is a short paragraph-quote), a bio on their company's website (9), 15 is either a PR-wash or routine or both.
 * 2) In the "not significant/WP:ROUTINE" bucket, we have academic profiles (1, 17/18, 20, presumably 23 too but the link is dead), a short snippet recycled from a uni PR (3). There are a few things that oscillate somewhere between listings of investors or networking sites but all of them clearly not GNG-worthy (5, 6, 7, 12, 19, 21, presumably 10/13 too but the link is dead).

A general internet search (in English) turns up a Haaretz piece. I can only read the preview, which seems mildly promising, but even then, it would be a single source. Tigraan Click here to contact me 16:53, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Click here to contact me Hi, I believe its due to your tranalation or the fact you cant read Hebrew... First allow me to point out that many of the sources are the biggest and relaible sources in Israel (i.e Globes, haaretz). As for the PR, they asked for a photo and they got one from the company, its not a press relase. There are more sources on Giora and also there was a dicussion on him in the past so I dont understand why this is returning to the table but willing to do whats needed. Thanks, Shanisun (talk) 14:25, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
 * The sources that are used to meet WP:SIGCOV need to simultaneously be (1) reliable (2) independent and (3) address the subject in detail. I am not disputing that a Haaretz article meets (1), but almost all interviews fail (2) and many articles that are not biography profiles fail (3).
 * If you think some of the current references meet all three criteria of SIGCOV, please indicate which, or bring new ones that do. Please do not list more than a few - three sources that meet all criteria are enough, a hundred that each meet only two of the three is insufficient. Tigraan Click here to contact me 08:51, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Hello Tigraan, here are a few; 1 2 3 4 5 6 7. All, I believe meet the criteria. I placed English and Hebrew both. As for the hebrew ones, they are from a reliable source, written by journalists, independent, and address the subject in detail. None of which are a press realse or was paid. Please also note he is the Chairman of the Board of Directors of the Tel Aviv University - see here. With respect, Shanisun (talk) 06:40, 16 June 2021 (UTC).
 * The first in that list is an interview (and part of my analysis above). Interviews are not considered independent of the subject, hence fail (2), unless you can describe why this specific interview somehow differs (I doubt it). I have not looked at the rest - others might but I do not feel you have really addressed my objections. Tigraan Click here for my talk page ("private" contact) 12:35, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Well I think you should look at the rest as well as know that most articles in Israel includes interviews, you will hardly find many on a person that doesnt include an interview... Also, I do want to understand (if u dont mind explaining) how Giora after and with all he has done, in your opinion is not wiki metiral...? Shanisun (talk) 13:13, 18 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 17:03, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Israel-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 17:03, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 21:25, 18 June 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ (talk) 22:21, 25 June 2021 (UTC)


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