Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Giorgi Latsabidze


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The result was   Snow Keep. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:50, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

Giorgi Latsabidze

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Fails WP:MUSICBIO and doesn't provide significantly reliable sources (many primary sources, many simple mentions and many unverifiable sources). Koui² (talk) 10:08, 20 September 2012 (UTC)


 * This article has been contributed my many other wikipedians, including administrators. As you see there are some problems that might be fixed, or have some sentences that seem to be ambitious removed, or find more sources which would support the statements. I personally think it would be disrespectful to delete whole article since there is clearly enough evidence that pianist is recognizable on the world concert stage. Moreover, I see there are quite enough secondary sources here which are useful. Pianist's notability is established, he performs in Berlin Philarmonie, in Wigmore Hall, in John Smith Square Hall He has new CD published recorded with Royal Philarmonic Orchestra at Naxos Records. All this are criteria that Wikipeida is asking when creating the article. And again, lets' just try to fix the article, not to delete it. Helen-Heller (talk) 15:57, 20 September 2012 (UTC)


 * I tried to add more reliable sources to the article, will continue working furthermore. There is no need to delete this article, in contrary it could be improved, problems can be fixed. I would appreciate your contributions! Sincerely, Helen-Heller (talk) 16:51, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Please tell me : where does Latsabidze meet any of the 12 points that are listed in WP:MUSICBIO ?--Koui² (talk) 21:58, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Hello again Koui: I would be happy to, not only "any" but more than "one" points listed by WP:MUSICBIO. I think whether you have not made enough research or just don't want to admit that your deletion tag was absolutely wrong, which was pointed out to you not only by my but other wikipedians including admins. Now, here are points: AND: Latsabidsze is a team member of Onward Entertainment, NYC AND LA BASED PRODUCTION COMPANY. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tibetibe (talk • contribs) 17:52, 21 September 2012 (UTC) I think I have pointed out enough and answered your rhetoric question. Now, it's time for you to reconsider your opinion my friend. Think that way, the pianist who is giving concerts in major concert halls such as the Berliner Philharmonie, Wigmore Hall London, etc..must not be that bad as you think, what do you think? Regards, Helen-Heller (talk) 00:27, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
 * won International Piano Competition in Cagliari, Italy in 1998, got 4th place. There were 6 finalists in 4th round playing piano concerto. You are more than welcome to verify my statement if you have any doubts. This competition is recognized by Geneva Federation and considered as major.
 * won 1st prize in 1999 at the N. Rubinstein International competition in Superior Category, which is taking place every Spring in Paris, France. You are more than welcome to verify this information with Slavic Conservatory in Paris. This competition was grounded back in 1996, here is another participant who wan the same competition
 * there is a documentary film made about Latsabidze back in 2005 by Austrian TV company. I have seen that movie when I lived in Austria, it was produced independently by KTV Austria. If you have any doubts you can contact them and ask. Again, I have seen that documentary which was filmed in Salzburg, includes his recital at the Steinway Concert Hall in Salzburg.
 * International concert tours: I'll just bring few, that should be enough for you: Berliner Philarmoniker, Wigmore Hall, Smith Square London, Triesner Guido-Feger-Saal, etc...
 * has released many CDs/DVDs in past and just recent is by Naxos Records
 * has been several times in radio in USA, most importantly is NPR Radio, also, at WHPQ
 * has been a TV featured subject in his native Tbilisi (capital of Georgia) several times in the main channels such I CHANNEL (PUBLIC BROADCASTER), Imedi,Ertsulovneba. I am sure there are preserved recordings about these shows in archives and I would be happy to obtain those if you wish.
 * last but not a least: he scored american short feature film : Twilight's Grace, Director: Jeremy Gram Weaver, which has been shown nationally and internationally including Sundance Film Festival, Santa Monica Film Festival, and etc. Also, he scored "Waltz Fantasie" which was nominated for the best music in Bologna film festival back in early 2000. He scored also Georgian movies in his native country and has been working with several producers in past. One of them one could point out was notable producer in Georgia: Reso Esadze

Hello Koui²

I have created this article couple of years ago together with my colleagues we have been trying to improve it over the consecutive years. I am an editor on wikipedia and made some other contributions as well. It's been a challenging but enjoyable. I respect your opinions, however please be advised that all problems can be fixed if such exist. Just nominating article because there were couple of unreliable sources (which has been removed already by you Koui² as I see) seems to me unreasonable. I see you have already removed those unreliable sources, I don't see any reason why you put deletion tag? I think overall article is written well and again it's been written not only by me but other editors and corrected by english administrators. So, I would kindly ask you to reconsider your opinion, I thank you for your contributions and hope you can help further. If there are problems on article let's fix it all together, this is what wikipedia is about, to work together, collaborate together, find problems and solve them in a nice way. I hope you are on the same page. Thank you for your understanding! Sausa (talk) 17:16, 20 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep. The performances and recordings with notable organizations (Royal Philharmonic Orchestra, in particular) in the venues mentioned are sufficient in my opinion for the subject of this biography to be included in Wikipedia.  The biographies of classical music performers are at a bit of a disadvantage considering the demographics of Wikipedia editors, and that's going to be particularly true for those from non-English speaking countries.  There does appear to be, however, some organized promotion of the subject of this article (which appears to be cross-wiki, considering the dozens of interwiki links), and some hype in the article, but that should be addressed by editing and not by deletion.  -- Ed (Edgar181) 19:42, 20 September 2012 (UTC)


 * I agree with what User:Edgar181 said. I too believe that the article should be fixed, not deleted. Invertzoo (talk) 21:15, 20 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep. As mentioned above by Edgar 181 if there were some problems in the article that should be addressed by editing and not by deletion. Moreover, as stated before, this pianist has recorded with the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra as well as his upcoming performance in one of the notable music halls in the world: Berliner Philharmonie. Considering those notable venues performed by this pianist the article is salvageable. Sausa (talk) 21:19, 20 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep. The article should be addressed by fixing the problems (if such still exist), not by deletion. Helen-Heller (talk) 04:45, 21 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep. Without looking deeper, anyone who played at Wigmore Hall is notable, if you ask me. The article should use more encyclopedic language and concentrate on the important facts, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:55, 21 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep. enough sources . as said before, it should be addressed by fixing the problems, not by deletion.--Aghuk (talk) 07:54, 24 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Georgia (country)-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 21:07, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 21:07, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Keep Meets notability requirements. However, a lot of the article reads like a resume. Not enough biographical info but heavy on the list of achievements and praise. It needs to be more balanced.♦ Dr. Blofeld  12:53, 25 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep but improve. --  ♬  Jack of Oz  ♬  [your turn]  02:03, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
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