Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Giovanni Battista Crema


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The result was keep. Yunshui 雲 水 14:45, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

Giovanni Battista Crema

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A (deceased) Italian painter that fails WP:GNG and WP:CREATIVE. The sole cited source is to a short biography apparently made in connection pinacoteca owned by a defunct bank that is now a charity. The page has apparently been taken down from the website. Online, only one of his paintings (Triptych: Prisoners of the Mountain Mist) are included in a notable gallery (the Minneapolis Institute of Art), which is not enough to pass WP:CREATIVE. &thinsp;&mdash; Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)&thinsp; 04:07, 12 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Artists-related deletion discussions. &thinsp;&mdash; Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)&thinsp; 04:07, 12 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Italy-related deletion discussions. &thinsp;&mdash; Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)&thinsp; 04:07, 12 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep He's in a collection, meaning possibly notable. I found several sources and added them; more notable. Apparently Benezit is a big deal, and according to this page, he is mentioned in that along with four other books (see "literature at bottom right). All in all, I say we should leave dead painters with multiple mentions in reliable sources alone.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 05:03, 12 December 2019 (UTC)
 * And also, there's the monograph/Catalogue raisonné L'opera pittorica di Giovanni Battista Crema : contributo alla definizione di un catalogo generale. Here's the World Cat entry. Meets WP:ARTIST ("The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work. In addition, such work must have been the primary subject of an independent and notable work (for example, a book...". ThatMontrealIP (talk) 05:11, 12 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I have added three more collections, (several of which are in confusingly named Italian places), so he meets WP:ARTIST very clearly. Personally I would be hesitant to nominate an article like this for deletion. If you had a fifty year career, you have been dead fifty years and your work is in one museum collection, the odds are always going to be that there is a lot more out there. ThatMontrealIP (talk) 05:35, 12 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep per ThatMontrealIP's research and article additions. Randy Kryn (talk) 12:03, 12 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep - Subject is notable, based on research by ThatMontrealIP; artist is in multiple collections and art history books. Clearly passes WP:NARTIST Netherzone (talk) 14:11, 12 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep – work is in serveral collectins and the entry is well-referenced, meeting WP:ARTIST. —Jonathan Bowen (talk) 20:00, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I started the article, and did not have a preconceived notion as whether to include, but his works are in two museums: Revoltella and Minneapolis. He links to other artists. I think it is worth keeping. I have a bias towards keeping in those persons who are recalled by independent sources.Rococo1700 (talk) 23:01, 14 December 2019 (UTC)


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