Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Giovanni Bonati (gymnast)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. I don't see a consensus to redirect, and the point made about the utility of of disambiguated redirects is a reasonable one. (This is not a prohibition on anyone else creating such a redirect if they care to - I just don't see a specific consensus for it here.) &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 07:57, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Giovanni Bonati (gymnast)

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Violates WP:NOTDATABASE, being sourced entirely to databases, and fails WP:GNG as a non-notable Olympian.

He competed as part of a team of 29 Italian Gymnasts in the 1908 Olympics, with his team coming fifth. Apart from that, all we know about him is his name, and when and where he was born and died.

Note that I would oppose a redirect, as disambiguated redirects are not likely to be useful. BilledMammal (talk) 08:47, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. BilledMammal (talk) 08:47, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Italy-related deletion discussions. BilledMammal (talk) 08:47, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - the sum of the info that seems to be available is not enough to justify an article at this stage. Admittedly, someone better at searching through Italian sources may have more success. Happy to change my vote if significant coverage is posted here. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 09:21, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
 * If nothing can be found on this guy, then redirect to Gymnastics at the 1908 Summer Olympics – Men's team per WP:ATD, WP:PRESERVE, WP:R and WP:CHEAP.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 10:20, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete There is no substantial coverage. There is no good reason to preserve lists of links to non-notable people just becasue we once had articles on them. Wikipedia is not a reliable source and we have no grandfather clause so we should just delete articles on non-notable people. This is especially true because having a lot of blue linked redirects in a list may lead people to incorrectly assume that the list is a guide to what is and what is not notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:47, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete No additional sources found. I also have doubts about the entire list of 1908 gymanstics Olympians since they are basically unsourced. Lamona (talk) 22:15, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Going through all articles in Wikipedia by birth year categories starting with 1927 and having made it back to 1908, that is how I feel about the vast majority of articles on Olympians. It does not help that in some cases articles on about 10 members of a team were all created by the same editor in about 10 minutes total.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:48, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete The article lacks coverage and the information provided is not enough, more reliable sources are required. Foodie Soul (talk) 12:32, 13 March 2022 (UTC)


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