Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Giovanni II Natoli


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 11:48, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Giovanni II Natoli

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Total confusion, a mixed biography of:
 * Giovanni II Natoli, son of Francesco Natoli Orioles and Giulia Lancia, who inherited the title of "prince of Sperlinga" in 1669, and
 * Giovanni III Natoli, son Francesco Natoli Alisia and Caterina Ruffo Scaletta, who became duke of Archirafi in 1741.

Neither has sufficient notability for this project. Article created by an indef-blocked editor with a history of fabrication and suspected hoaxes (see, e.g., this and this) and an obsession with Sperlinga and the Natoli family. Of the six sources in the article, one is a dead link and three do not mention Giovanni II Natoli (De Spucches 1924 covers Giovanni III). The two remaining sources are from 1757 and 1856.

No useful hits for either on Scholar or JSTOR, neither one is in the Dizionario Biografico degli Italiani, the national reference biography. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 20:49, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions.  SwisterTwister   talk  02:54, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Italy-related deletion discussions.  SwisterTwister   talk  02:54, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete as the current article is questionable as mentioned, nothing else convincing. SwisterTwister   talk  02:54, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — UY Scuti Talk  17:24, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per above.--Yopie (talk) 20:58, 4 February 2016 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.