Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Giovanni Sacheli


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. It seems like the inclusion criteria are not met here. As for people getting money and guaranteeing that an article will stay ... I'll raise this on WP:AN to get further input Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:22, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

Giovanni Sacheli

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Contested PROD, with the rationale being that the "information is real", which is all fine and dandy but doesn't exactly fill me with great confidence. I admit to a complete lack of ability to search for Italian sources, but what I'm finding in English only confirms existence rather than anything else. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 23:12, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Italy-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 23:54, 29 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Speedy delete as G4, recreation of deleted material. Please see AfD/Giovanni sacheli. GSS (talk |c|em ) 08:37, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. —David Eppstein (talk) 02:25, 1 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete: Not notable under WP:GNG, WP:NBIO or WP:NPROF. Ok, he exists. Ok, he's attended some conferences and spoken at a few conferences. Ok, he has a blog. None of this makes him notable by our standards, nor do their appear to be any reliable secondary sources attesting to his notability. Even this conference, which should be singing his praises as being a leading expert or some such in his field, has nothing to say that approaches our standards for notability. Given such rapid recreation after being deleted, a salting might be appropriate. --Hammersoft (talk) 20:07, 2 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Related; The image on this article, along with four other images of this person that have been uploaded by the same person, have all been placed for deletion Commons. See C:Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Sentorino. --Hammersoft (talk) 20:37, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Note to closer: If you close to delete, be aware that the redirect Giovani Sacheli will need to be deleted as well. --Hammersoft (talk) 20:37, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

Hello editors, I'm here to understand the reason for that deletion. Please could you explain why the page should be deleted? The article text links to websites of important Italian events in the subject area. Events websites mention and demonstrate his participation as main speaker to these events by many years. In Italy these events are considered the most important at national level. There is no false information or little authoritative sources. I understand Italian is not your language but you just need Google Translator to check the facts. Inside wikipedia there are pages for third category football players with 1 year participation, 99.99% of the population has never heard of them. So I really don't understand why you create all these false motives to delete the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Giovannisacheli (talk • contribs)
 * I did review the sources, even the ones in Italian. A conference website is not a neutral, reliable source that supports notability of a person. It might be useful to support individual bits of information in a biographical article, but by themselves do not significantly attest to a person's notability. I invite you to read WP:GNG, WP:NBIO and WP:NPROF and see how this person (you?) properly matches up with those standards. Can you point to any newspaper/media articles that focus on this person as the subject of the article? --Hammersoft (talk) 13:42, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete Unfortunately the bio does not pass GNG or PROF (e.g. 0 GS citations) and the sources are all ephemeral. Agricola44 (talk) 15:28, 4 August 2017 (UTC).

I paid a wikipedia editor a lot of money to create the page, because he proposed the deal to me, telling me also that the page will remain alive. I said to him I never eard about paid editors but he was sure about it. I think it is a robbery to delete the page with correct info. That's all. I will write about this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sentorino (talk • contribs)
 * Note to closing admin This rather changes the complexion of the matter. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 23:09, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

This is the message I received time ago:
 * Jenny C 
 * We saw an entry on Wikipedia which is currently up for deletion. We charge $150 for a complete article including clean up and management charges. ::Please let us know if you are interested so we can create one for you.


 * Regards
 * WikiStyle

Worst than mafia, pay and than the page is deleted. I think this matter require a full article with all the details, emails and all I have. 2.235.201.154 (talk) 08:16, 6 August 2017 (UTC)Sacheli


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