Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Giovanni Selzer


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The result was delete. --BDD (talk) 18:07, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Giovanni Selzer

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Does not appear notable. First 5 Google hits are to this article, images on Commons, and a Facebook page. I originally PROD'd it, but the author (who also happens to be the subject) de-PROD'd it without explanation. Jackmcbarn (talk) 22:35, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
 * delete Impossible to verify claims for notability. Hoax? Staszek Lem (talk) 19:23, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. Peter Rehse (talk) 07:56, 18 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete Not a hoax, but not a notable kickboxer either. I couldn't find him on the ISKA web site, but it turns out the tournament mentioned in the article was an amateur event.  I couldn't find the results at the ISKA site or anywhere else when I searched--but I did find him mentioned in the 2011 ISKA European amateur results  where it shows he came in second out of three in semi-contact in the "Veterans men Super Senior 36-40 -75 kg" division and second out of two in light contact in the "Super Senior men ‐75 kg" division.  In other words, he placed in these very specific divisions just by showing up--he may not have won any matches.  In addition, WP:KICK says "Kickboxers that have an amateur background exclusively are not considered notable" and he appears to lack the coverage required to meet WP:GNG. Papaursa (talk) 01:14, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I suspect hoax because the article claims he be multiple champion. Surely countrywide champions, even amateurs, must be reasonably notable in media, which we don't see. Staszek Lem (talk) 18:51, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I've seen the WAKO-USA national kickboxing championship event garner almost no press coverage, so a senior division competitor might easily fly below the media radar. Papaursa (talk) 19:04, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
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