Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Girl Crush (artist)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Seems like reliable sources here do not offer enough material to write an article about. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 09:17, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

Girl Crush (artist)

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Musician with no evidence of meeting WP:MUSICBIO. Speedy deletion nomination was declined due to having a claim of significance, but the only claim of significance is WP:BLP1E coverage an outfit she wore at an event, which is irrelevant for a biography about a musician, and irrelevant in any case. ~Anachronist (talk) 00:20, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep Found citations as performing musical artist for a nationally syndicated show and listing as musical artist in the MTV website per MUSICBIO http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0821375/fullcredits?ref_=tt_ov_st_sm, http://www.mtv.com/artists/girl-crush/biography (small bio entry) Neither source controlled by the subject in question. The subject seems to exhibits high profile behavior as well as notability. New York Times and US Magazine have added more Red Carpet coverage. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Georgemck408 (talk • contribs) 04:21, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
 * IMDB is not considered a reliable source and cannot be used as evidence of notability. The MTV page is just a profile description in a directory, not significant coverage. Coverage by NYT and US are trivial mentions focusing on the BLP1E outfit. None of this meets WP:GNG and especially not WP:NARTIST. ~Anachronist (talk) 05:45, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete: Article shows no significance in relation to the artist mentioned besides one night of what they were wearing to the awards show. They were not nominated for an award, therefore WP:MUSICBIO is not met, WP:BLP1E is also invalid as it only goes into details on how the clothes were recepted, and also fails to meet WP:GNG as for overall sources cited. Also, youtube is not a reliable source either, which is used in the last one.  ActiveListener95|  (˥ǝʇs Ɔɥɐʇ)    03:41, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete Per WP:BLP1E and WP:MUSICBIO Non notable music artist. --Cameron11598 (Talk) 17:02, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete a non-notable entertainer.John Pack Lambert (talk) 05:54, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep This article should be kept because it has received significant coverage in multiple reliable resources including LA Times, People magazine, Elle, Teen Vogue among others. Therefore the article subject meets WP:GNG. One event does not apply because the article covers many aspects of the artist's life and career, not just one outfit worn at an event. More articles are still coming out and a new reference was added just today to MTV. The article has grown and evolved adding more references and coverage since this nomination and first few discussion posts were written. Closing admin please read the talk page under contested deletion section at talk page because some newer editors are leaving arguments and discussion there rather than here. Antonioatrylia (talk) 05:09, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
 * What significant coverage? Let's look at the sources. LA Times: trivial mention. New York Times: trivial mention. People magazine: Trivial mention. Elle: Interview, which is a primary source, and doesn't count toward notability. Teen Vogue: some pictures but no actual coverage of the subject except for the BLP1E outfit. Sorry, this subject is vary far from meeting WP:GNG let alone WP:NACTOR. ~Anachronist (talk) 05:42, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep This article should stay as it does meet WP:GNG and cites multiple reputable sources as referred to above; LA Times, People Magazine, E News etc. Though not all cited in this specific article, major sources like NY Times and Romper covered this artist as well and not only for what she wore, but also looking into who she is as an artist. This page has grown and should be given the chance to continue to be edited and grow. Eever19 (talk) 05:51 24 February 2017 (UTC)
 * The "multiple sources" are not WP:SIGCOV. See my previous comment above. Trivial mentions don't count. No sources have been forthcoming that provide significant coverage of the subject as an artist. ~Anachronist (talk) 05:42, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Thus several respondents here disagree with your opinion. The article subject has received significant coverage in reliable sources about her life and career and also contains information about an outfit she wore to an award show. So BLP1event does not apply. Article passes GNG which supercedes the lower threshold policies. Sure there are a couple references to imdb or youtube which are not considered reliable, but the reliable sources from NY Times, LA Times, People magazine, Elle, and Teen Vogue are indeed considered reliable sources. My discussion to keep is based on policies. I stand with my keep vote. Antonioatrylia (talk) 06:27, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
 * As to the use of interviews in an article there are mixed opinions on that. If an interview is the only reference in an article it should not be used to denote notability, but when one interview is used with multiple reliable sources in an article, it may be taken into consideration when proving notabilty. Antonioatrylia (talk) 06:32, 25 February 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kurykh (talk) 21:42, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Where is the significant coverage? You keep gong on about NY Times, LA Times, People magazine, Elle, and Teen Vogue. Nobody is saying those aren't reliable. There is no significant coverage of the subject's life and work in those publications; therefore, your argument isn't grounded in Wikipedia policy. LA Times, NY Times, People: all trivial mentions, they don't count. Elle is a primary source, and Teen Vogue has no coverage, just some pictures. We need significant coverage. ~Anachronist (talk) 21:51, 26 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete - Some fleeting mentions for a silly outfit do not make for notability. The above mentioned reliable sources simply mention the subject.  That's not significant coverage.  -- Whpq (talk) 01:46, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
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 * Delete - subject has merely received 15 minutes of fame, fails WP:MUSICIAN and WP:ONEEVENT.  Dr Strauss   talk  13:03, 4 March 2017 (UTC)


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