Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Girl of Enghelab Street


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. A merger conversation can take place outside of AfD if desired. TonyBallioni (talk) 14:43, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

Girl of Enghelab Street

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Seems like a case of WP:BLP1E to me. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 14:21, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete a one event violation. I have to admit I hate that a 31-year-old woman is called a girl in the title.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:13, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep Strongly significant, @Johnpacklambert people started calling her "The Girl of Enghelab Street" on social media while no one knew she is 31, just because she looks young from the picture, I did not title that. Mjbmr (talk) 15:43, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
 * What makes her "Strongly significant"? The article title can always be changed if the subject is notable enough to have an article. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 15:56, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
 * @Emir I'm not arguing about the title, I was just clarifying for @Johnpacklambert where the title came from. The subject it self, is significant, trending since 27 Dec, biggest protest since 2009 against Iranian government, the picture of the woman being called as a "symbol of defiance/freedom" for Iranians. Mjbmr (talk) 16:10, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Iran-related deletion discussions. Mjbmr (talk) 15:53, 27 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete - the event might be significant, but the individual is not notable outside of the event. Merge content into article on the event.--Rpclod (talk) 16:34, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
 * @Rpclod The event is about the individual which is significant. Mjbmr (talk) 16:58, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. MT TrainDiscuss 16:56, 27 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete because Wikipedia is not a newspaper and the fact she is the poster girl for a protest against Iran does not make her notable in my opinion. If relevant you could write about her in the 2017–18 Iranian protests article. Ilyina Olya Yakovna (talk) 18:37, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep Widely covered photograph and video. More coverage from today following her release from prison. Title should probably be renamed, but the photograph of the woman holding up a hijab has become iconic, converted to cartoon and meme form as well.Icewhiz (talk) 22:09, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Note - there have been repeat and solidarity protests today. In particular one has been covered by RS: Second woman arrested in Tehran for hijab protest.Icewhiz (talk) 15:44, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
 * @Emir, @Johnpacklambert, @Rpclod With more coverage from today and yesterday, I assume the article is not about just one person anymore, it's about a movement. Mjbmr (talk) 16:06, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
 * There is already an article about the movement at 2017–18 Iranian protests. This article is only about the one girl. Ilyina Olya Yakovna (talk) 18:57, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
 * While linked and amplified in some Western reporting (in particular calls for her freedom and whereabouts) this is actually not connected. This protest took place a day+ before the Iranian protests erupted (and in a city, Teharan, that was not the initial outbreak) and we are seeing copycat protests after the Iranian protests are over - this was an issue regarding coverage of this event in 2017–18 Iranian protests. This event (and shows of support, memes, and copycats) is standalone notable - she has become the poster woman of the anti hijab coercion movement in Iran.Icewhiz (talk) 00:03, 30 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep She is the most prominent avant-garde activist against mandatory hijab in Iran. --Pirsharafshah (talk) 00:20, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
 * — Pirsharafshah (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

*Delete - Pointless content fork. She isn't notable outside the event and Wikipedia is not news. For these types of stories, we are adviced to write at the main article, and, if necessary, review if the topic necessitates a seperate article. Doing the complete is why we have so many poorly-constructed news articles.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 03:18, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Content for of what? There is no main article - this occured prior to the Iranian protests.Icewhiz (talk) 05:08, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep: I guess it's too soon to make decision about deletion of this article. We still need to wait and observe the the consequence and future effects of her action. If it turns to a continuing movement of similar actions among other people (which apparently it has already started) or becomes a large scale campaign, then she will meet the notability criteria, as was the case for Mohamed Bouazizi, the Tunisian street vendor who set himself on fire, which became a catalyst for the Tunisian Revolution as well as the Arab Spring. Therefore, I believe this nomination should be postponed for the next 6-12 months to see the results of her action.   FaraM  04:58, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Backwards thinking . We don't wait for things to become notable -- they either are or they are not. The proper procedure is to wait 6-12 months to create the article when notability is established...or it isn't.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 05:44, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
 * , Then, we can possibly move the content into the other article (perhaps there should be an article on "The Resistance Movement of Iranian Women Against Islamic Hijab"); Meanwhile and for the time being, I think we should keep the page and title and redirect the page to the new section of the second article.   FaraM  05:56, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

These are from January 29th media coverage In pesrian: Euronews, Radio France Internationale, Deutsche Welle
 * Keep It's not a single event. The event was repeated yesterday and you can see the media coverage. In persian it's known with the title "Girl of Enghelab Street" (دختر خیابان انقلاب) and "Girls of Enghelab Street" (دختران خیابان انقلاب).

And in English: Guardian, The New York Times, Daily Mail. SlowManifesto (talk) 07:45, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
 * SlowManifesto: See WP:BLP1E. -- M h hossein   talk 19:17, 1 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep Hi dear fellow, thank you for your amazing helps here in wiki, but I think unfortunately you're wrong in this case. It is an ongoing protest movement in Iran, and famous enough to have article here. But I still would like to thank you and assume it as a good one. Happy Editing! The Stray Dog   Talk Page   16:44, 30 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep She has sparked an ongoing and widespread event throughout the country. Alex-h (talk) 21:46, 30 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep It is clear to me that the article is now about a group, rather than a single person, therefore the deletion rationale (case of WP:BLP1E) no longer applies. I am surprised also that it seems to have remained separate to the main article on the 2017–18 Iranian protests which started mere days later, and that despite being a movement all of it's own, has no other main article. Taking all these factors into account, and seeing the new sources and significant support, I have struck my comments above and now recommend keep. Ilyina Olya Yakovna (talk) 19:04, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep - Per Ilyina Olya Yakovna above, I too struck my previous !vote. Sometimes news and its potential notability becomes apparent faster than others. That does not excuse how premature news-based articles tend to be, it should actually motivate editors to excercise a little bit more patience.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 14:40, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete or merge; Another WP:BLP1E like this one. They are turning the Encyclopedia into a Newspaper! -- M h hossein   talk 18:50, 1 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:SOAPBOX, WP:Coatrack articles and not least WP:BLP1E.--Charkhin (talk) 21:56, 1 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep - it's about a movement, not a single person. Perhaps move from "Girl" to "Girls". Psiĥedelisto (talk) 09:04, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - Here is wikipedia, not an anarchy or forum for free speech. ''Girl of enghelab street is just the Hashtag and also not the social movement that has occurred in most of cites and streets in Iran. Saff V. (talk) 10:56, 3 February 2018 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.