Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Girls Under Glass


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Withdrawn by nominator after significant improvement (non-admin closure)  C Thomas3   (talk) 21:11, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

Girls Under Glass

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No significant coverage found for this band per WP:MUSIC. SL93 (talk) 01:01, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. North America1000 05:10, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. North America1000 05:10, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep. Quick google search found that they just released a new song, which was reported on by german media [1 ][2 ] In addition, I found an allmusic bio, and another bio. They may not all be reliable, but if a quick Google search nets me these articles I think that there's definitely reliable information out there. Awsomaw (talk) 21:52, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jovanmilic97 (talk) 11:03, 26 November 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 03:28, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep. Only someone unfamiliar with the goth–industrial subculture would contemplate deleting this; while they're no Sisters of Mercy or Nine Inch Nails, they're a well-known act in that scene, if a bit "classic".  The problem for all such articles (bands with mostly pre-Internet popularity and influence, in a genre that's not a big seller like thrash metal or hip-hop and which peaked after the band's time, and mostly after the genre mutated toward industro-metal like Ministry/RevCo, Nine Inch Nails, and Rammstein) is that most RS coverage about them will be in paper sources, namely old music magazines, and mostly just European ones like NME and various that are not in English. The German article on the band seems to cite one that we're not using here at en.wiki yet, though I haven't looked it over.  If someone has access to paper copies, Industrial Nation and other alt-rock mags of the late 1980s and early '90s would be about the best bets when it comes to US sources (though I guess it's vaguely possible they might have turned up in something more mainstream).  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  03:56, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Update: I've done a total overhaul on it, translating the much better German article; also integrated its addl. source of course. Still needs much better sourcing, but I can't see anything in there that would be a controversial claim. Anyway, it's not even faintly plausible this band isn't notable, given how well known/influential it is in its genres (twice, as both Girls Under Glass and Trauma), with recording contracts under at least four names, carried on major (well, major for the genre) labels like Metropolis, with 10 studio albums and at least 5 greatest-hits anthologies, and a live album, and a live and documentary DVD, and who have headlined at Wave-Gotik-Treffen and Gotham [UK] Festival, and who've toured with The Neon Judgement, Fields of the Nephilim, Red Lorry Yellow Lorry, who have bands like Project Pitchfork open for, who have multiple collaboration releases, [etc.].  This looks like it was a WP:IDONTKNOWIT nomination. All of that information was already in the super-ugly original article.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  11:29, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep per the above work by SMcCandlish.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 18:14, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Withdraw. SL93 (talk) 02:57, 4 December 2018 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.