Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Giulio De Nardo


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The result was delete. Keep vote does not address policy Spartaz Humbug! 15:22, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

Giulio De Nardo

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Doesn't meet WP:GNG or WP:NCHESS.  Usedtobecool  TALK ✨ 05:27, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep. Competed in the 2nd Chess Olympiad in 1928 as a member of the Italian national team and deletion would turn a blue link on the Chess Olympiad page into a red link, making him the only participant without a page .[strike my false claim, there are about 8 of around 70 players in the 1928 Chess Olympiad without articles].  Article has sources.  Removal would not improve the encyclopedia in any way and would be antagonistic to the goal to build the web. Quale (talk) 07:33, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
 * , MOS:BUILD aims at allowing readers to deepen their understanding of a topic by conveniently accessing other articles. However, this is a person whose only notable relationship with Chess was playing in that olympiad. So, the standalone article provides no additional useful information. Red links of non-notable subjects are corrected by removing the link altogether. Sources in the article have matches listed, almost all rated games are recorded, that's bordering on indiscriminate information, there's literally nothing to build a biography with. NCHESS specifically mentions chess olympiad and says one must win a medal to be presumed notable. Moreover, as a player whose career is already over, GNG is a reasonable expectation. This is a person who played one olympiad and quit chess altogether and did other normal people stuff his whole life. Mention of his name in the squad for said olympiad is all the required understanding on the subject that we need. All other claims made in the article are unsupported, as none of the sources even write one sentence of prose on him.  Usedtobecool  TALK ✨ 09:23, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
 * What are you talking about? Please explain to me how it does not deepen the reader's understanding of the the 2nd Chess Olympiad to be able to learn more about the participants, including those competing for the Italian team.  And who are you to tell me or anyone else what is all the information I or we need about a chess olympiad competitor?  I understand that you have no interest in the chess olympiads and probably no interest in chess either, but although WP:IJUSTDONTLIKEIT is a great reason for you to not read articles about chess, it is not a good reason to delete those articles.  Many people do only one encyclopedically notable thing in their lives, but as it happens, one is enough.  In this case that one thing was playing as a member of a national team in the top international team competition in a sport.  Finally, WP:NCHESS is total crap, but that certainly isn't your fault.  The Italian wikipedia article lists an Italian chess encyclopedia as a source, and likely this could be used to source most of the article.  Quale (talk) 00:11, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * , please do not misrepresent my position to suit your refutation needs (see Straw man), or engage in divining my affiliations or my motives (see Ad hominem or even WP:NPA).
 * At the risk of repeating myself, the article does not further the understanding on the subject because the only bit of verifiable information presented there are the matches played by the subject, of which only Olympiad matches are of note which are best covered in the Olympiad article. It is difficult to presume notability in absence of WP:SIGCOV such as we do in case of rising players or players not yet retired because the player retired almost a hundred years ago, and other than participating in that one olympiad, went on to do normal people things. Olympiad participation is not enough to confer notability according to WP:NCHESS which I find very reasonable. I will leave you to ponder the irony of your linking WP:IDLI in a comment which goes on to say WP:NCHESS is total crap.  Usedtobecool  TALK ✨ 05:07, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete – No other sources that pass WP:SIGCOV found by WP:BEFORE searches. Don't want to reiterate nom's points, but sources in article are all statistics pages that don't pass WP:GNG, don't address subject directly enough to not need original research to extract content. Yes, there's a book cited in the Italian Wikipedia, but it's only one source and doesn't pass the multiple requirement of GNG. Removal would help Wikipedia by preventing it from resembling an indiscriminate collection of information. UnnamedUser (talk) 03:32, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 23:31, 10 December 2019 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, - Nahal (T) 23:11, 17 December 2019 (UTC)


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