Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Glasya-Labolas


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to List of demons in the Ars Goetia. The actual consensual redirect target is List of demons in the Ars Goetia so the anchor refinement of redirect target is an editorial decision.

Consensus (though not a strong one, but justifiable by the long open discussion time) was that the subject does not meet WP:GNG and reiterations of the same source cannot add to its notability. Merging old content may be done at editors' discretion. (non-admin closure) ~ Aseleste  (t, e &#124; c, l) 11:01, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

Glasya-Labolas

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Part of the List of demons in the Ars Goetia. The only source appears to be that work, and I find nothing else substantial; this is not a common figure in popular culture, and of course there is no reliable sourcing of actual interactions with demons. I expect that merging up to 72 articles to that page may be controversial; per a recent RFC it is in order to propose blank-and-redirects at this forum. power~enwiki ( π, ν ) 23:50, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. power~enwiki ( π,  ν ) 23:50, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Mythology-related deletion discussions. Pladica (talk) 01:43, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Paranormal-related deletion discussions. Pladica (talk) 01:45, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep The existing reference meets WP:V on a quick search I find this as well as several other references in books prior to 1970. While they are mostly minor, they support WP:V as for WP:GNG there are multiple hits in modern books.  Many of these are essentially the same as the 1904 work and/or Wikipedia. As for the statement "no reliable sourcing of actual interactions with demons." I am not sure what is meant by this, historical or modern, in any case, searching for reliable references to any spirt one does not believe in, is problematic. Jeepday (talk) 17:22, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Are there any hits that are not "essentially the same as the 1904 work and/or Wikipedia" (or any other translation of the Ars Goetia)? power~enwiki ( π, ν ) 17:57, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of demons in the Ars Goetia - While some of the 72 Goetia demons are notable enough, with enough coverage, to have their own articles, this one really is not. The source being used in the article is just a translation of the original The Lesser Key of Solomon, and pretty much every other source out there is just a reiteration of the same piece of information from that original text.  The entirety of the contents of this article is already present on the main list, as well, so I am not really seeing a reason to have this also be WP:SPLIT out into an individual article on top of that. Rorshacma (talk) 18:09, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 03:30, 10 March 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Further discussion on the possibility of merger/redirect as compared to keeping wholesale welcome.
 * I note Articles for deletion/Zepar, which was on a similar topic in 2010, that merged several of these articles to List of demons in the Ars Goetia. 力 (power~enwiki, π,  ν ) 04:11, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Go  Phightins  !  15:28, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect per Rorshacma. Mccapra (talk) 15:48, 20 March 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.