Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Glen Ackerman


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The result was   delete. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 21:43, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Glen Ackerman

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A nicely constructed biographical article, but does the subject really meet the notability guidelines? When you examine the references they seem rather thin, no really significant mention of the subject in the mainstream media. The whole article is really something of a puff piece. Polly (Parrot) 16:00, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Strong delete INsufficient notability to meet guidelines. ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:17, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

The readership of Washington Life magazine consists of the most well connected members of society in Washington, DC. The magazine has a subscriber base of at least 40,000. The magazine publishes 60,000 copies ten times a year which are read by at least 200,000 people per year. The Washington Life website receives around 5 and a half million hits per month. 
 * Strong Keep - Author's Rebuttal

The Bisnow email newsletter styles itself as the People for the professional set and has a readership of 120,000 people in the Washington DC area. The Legalbisnow newsletter which he was featured in boasts a weekly readership of at least 14,000 attorneys. 

The Washington Lawyer is the official publication of the Washington DC bar organization. The DC bar is comprised of 80,000 attorneys.

The scholarship that he is the cobenefactor of has benefited countless students since 2003 to promote LGBT advocacy.

All in all this equals roughly 400,000 people who have read about Glen and his work as an LGBT advocate. While these magazines may not be the New York Times or the Wall Street Journal, they certainly qualify as mainstream media for the Washington, DC area. Therefore the assertion that the press written about him does not qualify as mainstream is flawed. The sources, as required by the notability guidelines, are both reliable and verifiable. Additionally, Ackerman has been mentioned many times in these verifiable sources. The sources relied on in this article were not written by the subject nor were they advertising or self published. This clearly satisfies the parameters laid out by Wikipedia for keeping the article. Amanda.cook.esq (talk) 01:32, 14 July 2009 (UTC)  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 16:46, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Delete per WP:NN a few magazines in the DC area are surely not "significant coverage" -- Bsay  USD  [Talk] π [contribs]  19:29, 17 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep yes, Wikipedia is not a directory and we should avoid self promotion (which some may accuse this of being). I don't see this particular case that way and it is well put together and sourced.  Borderline?  Sure.  Not notable?  Not sure I'm landing that far south of the line.--Paul McDonald (talk) 19:31, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Well I think I will head that far south. You have not pointed to the reliable sources with significant coverage on the scale that would be needed. And to be honest, I've not looked in massive detail but a few scans of the references and article and I cannot find them. Seems a desperate amalgamation of information, sort of along the lines of WP:Bombardment in order to attempt notability. Polargeo (talk) 20:10, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete due to a lack of significant coverage. Borderline?  No.  Below the line.  JBsupreme (talk) 20:40, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Regretful Delete — Even if this article were completely rewritten to make it less like a promotional presentation of Mr. Ackerman's CV — especially if it were thus rewritten — Mr. Ackerman would still be, evidently, a real stand-up guy working hard to improve his community who at this time does not meet WP:BIO notability standards; popularity does not imply or confer notability. —Scheinwerfermann T&middot;C 21:06, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
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