Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Glen Cummings (musician)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. No prejudice against speedy renomination (non-admin closure) Dea  db  eef  21:36, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

Glen Cummings (musician)

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This page about me references my activities as a musician from 1985 to 1999 - mis-using my name and highly subjective set of information me, to create an inaccurate impression of me, and an innaccrate, incomplete representation of my activities. Rather than seeking to correct the entry, I seek its immediate deletion. It serves no productive purpose whatsoever - and was created and has been managed without my permission. I feel this page acts against my best interests and therefore is libelous. Please remove this page. — Preceding unsigned AfD added by Glenmtwtf (talk) 17:46, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  Jinkinson   talk to me  22:56, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:02, 20 October 2014 (UTC)


 * First of all, there is absolutely no way to know that you are who you claim to be. Secondly, it is not for the subject of any article in Wikipedia, whoever they are, to say that they should or should not have an article - the criteria is notability. Your permission is not required. Thirdly, I see nothing in the article that could in any way be construed as libelous; that's not to say it's accurate, but that's a different question altogether and one that can be addressed by editing. Emeraude (talk) 17:38, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 02:34, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

 
 * Weak keep. As it stands, the subject passes the notability threshold for musicians by dint of being in two notable bands. However in my searches I failed to turn up any significant coverage in reliable sources that would mean we can expand this article beyond a stub. I'm leaning towards keep based on the suspicion that as the groups were largely pre-internet there may well be offline sources out there somewhere. I'm afraid none of Mr Cummings' (if 'tis he) objections above hold much water - if we had to had to ask permission from article subject before creating articles we'd never get anything down, and the number of libellous statements in the article total exactly zero. Dylanfromthenorth (talk) 03:08, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment. I dunno.  I usually vote to delete articles where the subject requests deletion (per WP:BIODEL and WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE), but these are not garage bands.  In fact, I still listen to Scatterbrain occasionally.   Can we get some kind of proof that this is Glen Cummings?  Post to your official, verified Twitter account, verify your identity to WP:OTRS, or whatever.  I'm not sure I understand how this article is defamatory, and I think your argument on that front is very weak.  Keep in mind that Wikipedia articles are not a source of promotion, and the articles are designed to be useful to readers, not the subject.  I think that you – if you really are Cummings – inhabit a weird kind of zone where sources are very difficult to find yet you are still notable.  I might support deletion if you can validate that you're truly Cummings. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 05:34, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 03:13, 5 November 2014 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.