Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Glen Frazer, California


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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 14:55, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

Glen Frazer, California

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Another rail station mistakenly identified by GNIS as a community. There was briefly a post office here called Frazerville and then later called Glen Frazer. As we've seen, post offices back then were not a reliable indicator of a town or village. Several references call it a train station but no indications that it was ever a community. Does not meet basic notability standards. Glendoremus (talk) 23:56, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete This one is longer, better sourced, and even illustrated, but, again, the article does not establish why this location is notable.TH1980 (talk) 02:00, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete: The article does not meet WP:GNG, WP:GEOLAND appears unpopulated.  // Timothy ::  talk  13:05, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 13:43, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 13:43, 2 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep This indicates that in addition to the post office and railroad station, there was a pumping station and a few residents of the area. Some more coverage  . Nothing to be gained by deleting this. ~ EDDY  ( talk / contribs )~ 01:27, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment A pump station was not an uncommon piece of equipment at a railroad station during the age of steam locomotives. Frazier was the name of the ranch owner where this station was built. The other people mentioned in your citations were all railroad employees, not residents. Everything says this was a typical railroad station and not a community. Glendoremus (talk) 15:44, 4 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep Weak Keep Glen Frazer had a post office, which I feel meets the "Populated, legally recognized places" of WP:GEOLAND.  There is a non-trivial article about the station, which includes a photo, which possibly meets WP:STATION.  Here's an article that mentions residents of Glen Frazer and another about the same accident.  George Frazer's obit, resident of Glen Frazer. Cxbrx (talk) 00:57, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I have a different opinion about what "legally recognized" means, but it seems like I've not been very successful about convincing others of my view, so I'm changing this to a Weak Keep so as to not block consensus. Cxbrx (talk) 13:56, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 04:59, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Yet another erroneous GNIS designation. Post offices are not indicators of passing WP:GEOLAND because they are not legal recognition and in the context of a RR station a post office may be tied only to postal rail functions and not to a populated place. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 22:01, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Nothing in the plain wording of WP:GEOLAND indicates a that GNIS listing and/or having had a post office confers notability. Yilloslime (talk) 00:02, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete describes it as a "depot" for the railway, which isn't a community, or even the kind of station where passengers can board. There are mentions in sources but they are all in the context of reports of routine railway operations.  makes it clear that there was a ranch nearby, but a ranch doesn't equal a community. There's certainly no sign of a community at the claimed coordinates now. WP:GEOLAND only gives near-automatic notability to legally recognised populated places. Having a post office doesn't equate to legal recognition and there isn't any good evidence of a community here anyway. If it's not a legally recognised populated place then it has to pass the GNG.  Hut 8.5  06:48, 14 August 2020 (UTC)


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