Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Glen T. Martin


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. ✗ plicit  02:39, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

Glen T. Martin

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Though I created this article, looking back to it after gaining more editing experience I find it as only list of non-notable books by a non-notable writer. Just one award by person can't justify the whole article in my opinion and experience at Wikipedia. --BeLucky (talk) 20:51, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Articles for deletion/Log/2023 November 14.  —cyberbot I   Talk to my owner :Online 21:23, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Academics and educators, Authors, Philosophy, New York,  and Virginia.  WC  Quidditch   ☎   ✎  22:01, 14 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Comment I removed the WP:A7 because the article contains a credible claim of significance, specifically that the subject received the Gusi Peace Prize the "Nobel Peace Prize of the East". Further, WP:NACADEMIC point 2 states that a person is notable if "The person has received a highly prestigious academic award or honor at a national or international level". A Noble Peace Prize would automatically confer notability, is receipt of the "Nobel Peace Prize of the East" significant and prestigious enough to confer notability? That is for the community to decide. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:AC63:56C2:B69A:156D (talk) 23:03, 14 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Comment. I thought with so many published books he must surely have the published book reviews that would lead to a pass of WP:AUTHOR, but I searched and didn't find any. Maybe someone else can find them where I didn't, or maybe we will have to look for notability elsewhere, but this is an unpromising start. —David Eppstein (talk) 23:34, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
 * @David Eppstein We need to also consider the fact what just happened within a minute I tagged the page:
 * User talk:BeLucky --BeLucky (talk) 04:05, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
 * @David Eppstein @4meter4 @Ca Yes this writer doesn't have a single book review. And kindly look at this too:
 * Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents
 * User talk:BeLucky
 * https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Nobel+Peace+Prize+of+the+East%22 10 google results.
 * And the credibility of the claim "Nobel Peace Prize of the East" is in question as the cite on article is from Meer (https://www.meer.com/en/60249-greece-gets-a-gusi) which is written by the recipient on the award himself. And other source which is oldest (2019) in this is also from the recipient of the award himself: https://www.aspher.org/news,23.html
 * Text on the Gusi Peace Prize "foremost peace awards of Asia" also cited from the source which himself is recipient on the said award.
 * Another question: is following considered as not good for cite:
 * https://www.ratemyprofessors.com/professor/148393 Kindly let me know if we have any place where we can check which is considered credible and which is not.
 * And we must start investigation about these IPs:
 * 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:C533:556A:35B0:32EF
 * 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:AC63:56C2:B69A:156D
 * Thanks --BeLucky (talk) 05:51, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Ratemyprofessors is not reliable. It is unusable as a source for anything on Wikipedia. Also IPs are allowed to edit as IPs without requiring us to investigate them. With these IPV6 numbers it is normal for them to jump around a bit rather than sticking to the same number; that's how IPV6 often works. —David Eppstein (talk) 05:58, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
 * @David Eppstein What about the credibility/authenticity of the lines on article (Gusi Peace Prize): "Being one of the foremost peace awards of Asia, Gusi Peace Prize is often referred as "Nobel Peace Prize of the East". and cites used there? Can we remove that? --BeLucky (talk) 10:06, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't think it is wise to derail the AFD by drawing in other editors to comment on the discussion on BeLucky's talk page, the ANI post, and the issues revolving around the PROD. All of that has no bearing on the AFD. We should keep our attentions on notability policy in this discussion thread as it relates to this particular article.4meter4 (talk) 15:42, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
 * @4meter4 We can cleanup the list of books as it doesn't pass the WP:AUTHOR criteria? --BeLucky (talk) 18:36, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
 * That is an editorial decision to address after this AFD closes. WP:AUTHOR is a policy about determining the notability of authors for article inclusion. It isn't meant to address what content should be included within an article on a notable author. For that you should read WP:Verifiability. We generally keep content that is cited to reliable sources as long as it is presented with the appropriate WP:WEIGHT.4meter4 (talk) 18:55, 15 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Keep. Passes criteria 1 of WP:ANYBIO as the subject "has received a well-known and significant award". In looking for sources on the Gusi Peace Prize] itself there appears to be enough coverage on the award in google books and media to make a claim that the award is both well-known and significant. As such, any winner of the Gusi Peace Prize will pass ANYBIO and does not need to demonstrate that they also pass GNG as ANYBIO is an officially recognized WP:SNG.4meter4 (talk) 15:48, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Doczilla  @SUPERHEROLOGIST 08:35, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. Looks like a promotional article. Also can be seen in above comments that there is no reliable source which proves about prize. ☆★ Sanjeev Kumar   ( talk ) 05:49, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
 * The source is a WP:PRIMARY source. It is a video of the Gusi Peace Prize ceremony and his speech upon receiving the award. As such, I don't think the claim of lack of verifiability or unreliability can be made. It would be preferable to have an independent secondary source.4meter4 (talk) 17:09, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete – We cannot write an encyclopedic article about someone who's only won a reward and no one ever wrote about them. Business Standard and The Hindu aren't terrible, but I don't think they're enough to build a biography off of, seeing as they are not about Martin specifically. ~ Maplestrip/Mable ( chat ) 13:17, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. The organization of which he is president had its article deleted by AfD in 2019, although it was later re-created. The winners of the Gusi Peace Prize that I could find listed do not convince me of its significance. I don't think either of those things can be taken as conferring notability by themselves. And although one could imagine that these accomplishments could have led to the in-depth published sources that do confer notability, we have no such sources. So I don't see a pass of WP:GNG, and as I said above I also found no evidence of passing WP:AUTHOR. —David Eppstein (talk) 08:37, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete as above. Notability too weak. Xxanthippe (talk) 04:17, 25 November 2023 (UTC).


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.