Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Glenn Sisco


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The result was delete. Mz7 (talk) 05:31, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

Glenn Sisco

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Fails WP:POLITICIAN, not notable. Don't be fooled by "one of the longest serving mayors in NJ", the longest serving is Gerald Calabrese (I looked it up) Rusf10 (talk) 03:15, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
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 * Delete We have an absurd number of articles on mayors of minor places in New Jersey. In no state would a place with 10,000 people (when Sisco left office) be notable. For example, Saratoga Springs, Utah has over twice the population of this place, but the only mayor of there who is notable Mia Love, is a member of congress who has spoken at the Republican National Convention (an then missed the next one to show that she in no way endorsed D. J. Trump), has been a key voice in urging those accused of sexual harrassment to resign, a sponsor of legislation to end government paying settlements in sexual harrassment by members of congress cases, a key advocate of over-the-counter birth control, one of Susan B. Anthony's lists top endorsed candidates, the first Haitian-American in congress who has pressed the current administration to not end coverage, and as the first elected politician of African descent in Utah County was getting covered in Utah's two top dailies from when she was first elected to the city council, and even in her first unsuccessful run for congress managed to get nation-wide coverage. On the other hand, Sisco gets one article in an extremely local paper when he retires. This is all the more worth noting since New Jersey more than any other state has an over abundance of small cities, so places with populations from 5,000 to 25,000 are even less notable than they would be in any other state, not that any state would a city of this size be one that would propel its top politicians to notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 05:12, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I haven't really looked at some of the other states yet. The problem is certain editors throw notability out the window when it comes to their hometown or some place they lived. There really should be a standard based on population that gets applied here, but there isn't. A mayor of a city of 1 million is certainly notable and a town of 100,000 or less certainly is not, anything between is debatable. Of course, there are exceptions as you pointed out when someone get national coverage.--Rusf10 (talk) 05:33, 15 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete Per WP:POL as expressed in WP:POLOUTCOMES regarding mayors of small jurisdictions. --Enos733 (talk) 19:04, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. We do not automatically accept every mayor of everywhere as notable enough for a standalone article, but apply standards of substance and sourcing to distinguish notable mayors from non-notable ones. A population test isn't really the best way to do that — a small-town mayor can sometimes be significantly more notable than the norm for small-town mayors (e.g. the person attains an unusual depth of sourceability, or they become a prominent advocate for a wider political issue), and a big-city mayor can be less (e.g. if the city's mayoralty is a ceremonial weak-mayor position that merely rotates annually among the city councillors rather than being directly elected). Rather, the ultimate test is whether they can or cannot be referenced to sourcing that goes above and beyond what could merely be expected to always exist for all mayors — such as a higher than usual volume of coverage, or coverage that expands significantly beyond the purely local. But neither of those is in evidence here: the article just states that he existed and cites one piece of coverage in the local pennysaver. But that's a depth of substance and sourcing that any mayor of anywhere would always clear, so it's not enough. Bearcat (talk) 17:20, 16 December 2017 (UTC)


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