Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gloom (game mod)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. --Sam Blanning(talk) 13:48, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Gloom (game mod)
Game mod that doesn't appear to meet WP:CORP's criteria for products. Looks to be mostly original research to me and doesn't seem to meet verifiability or reliable sources requirements. I requested sources on the article's talk page and have not received any responses. Delete. Wickethewok 20:00, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Some references from outside the gloom pages. Description from moddb: http://mods.moddb.com/581/gloom/ Anouncement at planetquake: http://planetquake.gamespy.com/View.php?view=POTD.Detail&id=254 I think these where the ones you where asking for that match WP:V. Tneg 02:05, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been added to the list of CVG deletions. -- moe .RON   talk  22:58, 17 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Keep see the article on Rocket Arena for similar arguments. FrozenPurpleCube 13:53, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid I don't understand your reasoning. It doesn't seem to meet WP:V, as the PlanetQuake and moddb listings seem trivial and are not from reliable sources.  Many mods have been featured in magazines, so that doesn't seem to be an unrealistic bar for notability or verifiability.  Wickethewok 06:06, 16 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete - Fails WP:V. ModDB is not a reliable source as there are practically no requirements for getting your mod listed on it. The Kinslayer 09:13, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:V, which states "If an article topic has no reputable, reliable, third-party sources, Wikipedia should not have an article on that topic." -- Satori Son 01:26, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep see Game Developer Magazine February 2001 (physical publication) where Gloom is discussed as a highly innovative mod. Gloom is a landmark project in mod development. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.27.13.18 (talk • contribs)
 * Comment Check it out? It's not even for sale in the UK that I know of. If it's not being cited in an article, then it's of no use at all. You can't just tell everyone to look in a magazine that isn't even available to them. The Kinslayer 12:51, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment: I don't think that mention five years ago in one single industry pub is enough to establish notability.  Per WP:SOFTWARE, "The software package has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the company itself." (I know that WP:SOFTWARE is still in the proposal phase, but that criteria is essentially the same in all notability standards.) Even WP:V requires more than one credible, third-party source. -- Satori Son 13:17, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and Satori Son. Vectro 21:25, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per Satori Son Chevinki 11:01, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.