Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gloren Guelos


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The result was delete and redirect to Miss BC. Actually a delete but the redirect was requested Spartaz Humbug! 06:31, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Gloren Guelos

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Winning a couple of obscure beauty pageants doesn't satisfy WP:BIO and WP:GNG. Clarityfiend (talk) 23:17, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 23:19, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Beauty pageants-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 23:19, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of British Columbia-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 23:19, 10 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom ProcrasinatingReader (talk) 23:30, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep They're not obscure beauty pageants. The Miss BC title is a good title, it's provincial in Canada, similar to state-level in U.S. so it's basically like winning Miss Alaska, so are you going to nominate Debbe Ebben too? If all state-level beauty queen winners in the U.S. can have an article, then why discriminate against provincial-level beauty queen winners in Canada? Also, Miss Supranational Canada is a national pageant, she won at the country-level, you can't argue that's obscure unless you consider Canada obscure? Wiki2008time (talk) 00:06, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
 * They are really obscure pageants. How come Guelos isn't mentioned in the Vancouver Sun or Province? There are just a handful of articles in these major BC newspapers for any of the Miss BC winners, and Miss Supranational Canada (which makes no logical sense: a national title that's "supranational"?) gets even less than that. Clarityfiend (talk) 05:23, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
 * If you go over to Courage Productions, there are plenty of articles about Miss BC winners multiple times - including the Province for 2009 http://www.theprovince.com/Miss+Pageant+2009/1764478/story.html This pageant itself is the biggest provincial pageant in BC. As for Miss Supranational Canada, I understand it's a relatively new pageant, so that may be part of the issue there, but I still look at any national pageant that can be followed by a global pageant and I find that notable. --Wiki2008time (talk) 05:56, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , so we have an album of them winning, and a couple of obscure articles (perhaps?) on some of these Miss Teen Canada winners with one or two short paragraphs on how they won X year's Miss BC contest. Given a lack of general notability and absence of sufficient coverage to meet WP:GNG, do you not feel the listing of these individuals is best met by adding them to Miss Teen Canada or Miss BC and so on? Even on that page, there's dozens of individuals without pages created. Do you support creating a page for each one?
 * None of these individuals meet WP:GNG - we can barely write more than 4 sentences about them, and even those 4 sentences just state that they won a pageant (and, in the case of all these related AfD listings) afterwards never seemed to do any remotely notable modelling - this particular one became a nurse. ProcrasinatingReader (talk) 15:10, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
 * NOTE: If this will end up being deleted, please at least redirect to Miss BC. I would suggest one of the national ones but the only national pageant she won (Miss Supranational) does not seem to have a wikipedia page as it was deemed a "non-notable" pageant by a previous AfD. I already put her information on the Miss BC page. --Wiki2008time (talk) 23:23, 17 June 2020 (UTC)


 * delete as per usual, placing or even winning these dime-a-dozen pageants does not make one notable. Praxidicae (talk) 14:26, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment it's a bit late now, but perhaps these should've just been WP:BUNDLE'd into one AfD. The arguments being made are pretty much the same across each one, and they're all pretty much equally unnotable. Some points have been repeated across the similar AfDs, others haven't. Reviewing admin may wish to take a look at points made on the similar Miss Teen BC AfDs, made on same or +- 1 day. ProcrasinatingReader (talk) 15:16, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Reply. They all won different pageants, so I didn't want to muddy the waters. Clarityfiend (talk) 07:09, 12 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete Beautiful girl. Zero coverage, possibly very very early in her career.  scope_creep Talk  09:22, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete as non-notable. --Lockley (talk) 01:45, 18 June 2020 (UTC)


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