Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gloria Nathan


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Will redirect to the character page after deletion. The Bushranger One ping only 00:55, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Gloria Nathan

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This article has been redirected/reverted numerous times. Subject is a fictional recurring, but not main character of a notable television series. Other than a link to the network (HBO) site of the show, no references at all. Article is solely plot summaries of the character, season by season, written in an "in-universe" style. IF the subject was a MAIN character, I would consider keep, but is a recurring character and the notability guidelines would point to simply including the character in a a list of characters. Therefore, I would delete and redirect to the appropriate list of characters of Oz (TV series) and  salt  to prevent further re-creation. Safiel (talk) 02:58, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 03:05, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 03:05, 29 July 2013 (UTC)


 * You're not asking for deletion, so it's actually not a valid AfD. Having said that, I see redirecting as appropriate, but question whether protecting that redirect is necessary.  There may indeed be more sources forthcoming, and main vs. recurring character is not a distinction our notability guidelines make--it's all about the coverage. Jclemens (talk) 03:52, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment On reconsideration, salting is a bit more than what is called for in this instance, so I have modified my AfD statement accordingly. Also, added delete to redirect in order to get within the AfD guidelines. I think my main issue is people will restore the article, but never do anything in the direction of finding sources or actually improve the article from essentially a useless plot summary. Looking at the fictional character herself, at least on cursory examination, I don't see enough coverage centering on her to justify a separate article. Safiel (talk) 05:36, 29 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep- the article is about an important Latino and Female character in Oz- which was a major prison drama in the English speaking world. The complaints by the proposer suggest the articles needs reviewed and tidied up rather than deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Locomotion is your duty (talk • contribs) 20:16, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment The ethnicity and sex of the character is irrelevant. Again, the character is a recurring character, not main character. Mentions of her in reliable sources generally mention her in the context of the overall show, rather than focusing on her directly. A paragraph on her on a "list of characters" page would be more than sufficient. There is insufficient coverage in reliable sources to justify a separate article. Again, I would restore the redirect. Safiel (talk) 19:18, 4 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 17:27, 5 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete and salt. Already listed in the main show as recurring with information there, not majorly noteworthy for own article. Murry1975 (talk) 23:43, 10 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete Lacks standalone notability. DavidLeighEllis (talk) 22:23, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.