Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Goga Pahalwan


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The result was redirect to Bholu Brothers. Redirects are cheap and further, anything merge-able can be deemed from the page-history. (non-admin closure) &#x222F; WBG converse 10:51, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Goga Pahalwan

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Subject is not independently notable. References only mention in passing the subject, if at all.  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 08:15, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Wrestling-related deletion discussions.  Lee Vilenski  (talk • contribs) 08:15, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 11:13, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 11:13, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 11:13, 24 July 2018 (UTC)


 * DeleteThere are a number of Pakistani sources that seem to mention him. I don't know much about the different sources to determine if they are a RS or not, but I am not finding any of them that have more than a passing mention of him, therefore either way fails GNG. -  Galatz גאליץ שיחה Talk  20:26, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment - His article could possibly be merged to Bholu Brothers. Nikki♥311 23:08, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I can't find any sourced material in the article that could be merged...  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 07:32, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Content might not need to be merged, but that could make a redirect target -  Galatz גאליץ שיחה Talk  13:31, 25 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete I proposed this for deletion when the sole reference was a self-published Geocities site. Since then several references have been added.
 * This sources his date of death and names of family members, so doesn't establish notability.
 * This references the names of several members of his family, describing him as a "renowned wrestler". This source isn't really permissible per WP:DAILYMAIL, at best it's an indication that reliable sources might exist due to how it describes him.
 * This doesn't even mention him.
 * This simply says "The family were wrestlers since 1850. The golden generation – brothers Bholu, Azam, Aslam, Akram and Goga – practiced opposite the independence monument in Lahore and behind the shrine of a famous sufi saint", so doesn't really establish notability.
 * This says "Umpires were Goga Pahalwan, Anwer Pahalwan and Hajinder Singh, coach of the Indian team". This is trivial coverage, and since it's a 2010 article it doesn't appear to be referring to this person who apparently died in 1981.
 * It's quite possible the person is notable and that reliable sources exist, particularly non-English ones, but it would have to be demonstrated that a reliably sourced article can be written. I can't really support a merge to Bholu Brothers, as at present all that can be reliably sourced is something along the lines of "Another brother, Goga, was also a professional wrestler". The Bholu Brothers article has enough problems of its own regarding sourcing without transferring the problems from this article to it. 2A02:C7D:3CAF:D900:8DA0:EBD4:4257:5B93 (talk) 10:36, 25 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete Whatever relevant mention is needed should be made at Bholu Brothers. based on this passing mention. Apparently there are more than one Goga Pahalwan in Pakistan. The one alive is doing referee job, not sure If its the same., since u checked all refs, Please add any useful source/ref from this article to the Bholu Brothers article.-- D Big X ray  12:15, 26 July 2018 (UTC)


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