Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gold Coast sports curse


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   merge to Sports_on_the_Gold_Coast,_Queensland. Discounting the SPI accounts, there is a consensus to merge the referenced content of this article into Sports_on_the_Gold_Coast,_Queensland. Nakon 06:47, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

Gold Coast sports curse

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Amusing, but not a real thing. Grahame (talk) 07:36, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
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 * Weak delete. Lots of sources, but not really much in terms of reliable sources focusing on the main topic (this particular "curse"). Seems like a heavy case of WP:OR. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 07:49, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep in some form I agree that the current article title and some of its content is silly, but the sad story of professional sports on the Gold Coast does seem to have received considerable coverage (for instance,, ) as well as the refs in the article - it seems that the Gold Coast is a marginal market for professional sports teams in a bunch of ways, but is attractive enough for them to keep trying. This could be moved to something like Professional sports on the Gold Coast or be merged into Sports on the Gold Coast, Queensland in some way? Nick-D (talk) 07:55, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
 * comment the article creator is a single purpose editor, I wonder their motive with this article, is it trying to paint the gold coast in a negative light? LibStar (talk) 07:58, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
 * LibStar, I think that's unfair. This article appears to have been created in good faith, and there are lots of serious references which discuss the problems with professional sport in this area (which is an interesting topic given that it's one of the larger cities in a sports-mad country) Nick-D (talk) 09:34, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
 * their style of editing suggests the article creator has some experience as another editor. Highly unusual for a brand new editor to create an article like this. LibStar (talk) 11:30, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

— Linmus (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Keep this is something I've only researched in the past few days and media reports as recent as this month have referred to the Titans trying to avoid the Gold Coast curse. There is no denying recurring themes with Gold Coast sports teams over the last few decades. I agree some is opinion-based on my behalf so perhaps altering the the article to a more factual product would be better? Linmus 31 March 2015 — Preceding undated comment added 09:04, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep this article provides a great insight into the struggles and failures of professional sports on the Gold Coast. As has been pointed the failures have been well documented by the media and some have suggested a the cause is a curse. The sillier information can be removed or at least pointed out that it does not have a reference but a lot of the article is factual with sources to back it up Matchu01 (talk) 09:56, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
 * it's interesting that you come here as your first edit in 6 weeks. How did you find this AfD? LibStar (talk) 11:32, 31 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Comment There is a serious WP:OVERREF problem. The article stinks of WP:OR or WP:UNDUE, but I am not going to dig through the references for two hours, so I will not !vote. Tigraan (talk) 12:22, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep, even locals will admit that the history of the city in professional sports is not great, and a lot of sources mention this belief. That said, there seems to be more than a little WP:SYNTH in the article, but that's not itself a reason to delete the article.  Lankiveil (speak to me) 12:39, 31 March 2015 (UTC).
 * merge to Sports on the Gold Coast, Queensland When all is said and done, this all traces back to a single news report; every other relevant mention of a "Gold Coast curse" (and there are plenty that aren't) is a link to this story. It's telling that of the three hits on the full phrase, the first two are for a forum post where someone asks whether there is such a curse— and gets no answers. It's probably appropriate to mention the news article in the point I suggest for merger, but the rest of it is wildly WP:UNDUE. Mangoe (talk) 12:40, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
 * this article from February states the Titans brand appears to be cursed and this article  states the Suns are optimistic about shaking the Curse of Carrara Linmus 31 March 2015  — Preceding undated comment added 13:49, 31 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete. Silly nonsense, hoax article without adequate references.  The first reference doesn't even mention a curse or superstition except in the headline. The others sources are not about a Gold Coast sports curse. Commentary on a group of sports teams from a city doesn't form the basis of article, let alone the view that there is a curse. This thing doesn't exist. - Shiftchange (talk) 08:40, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
 * delete for the POV presentation. sure sporting teams have failed but that's due to poor business skills of the sporting franchises not some special curse. LibStar (talk) 08:54, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep in some other form. Agree with User:Nick-D. There's a lot of useful history of professional sports on the Gold Coast supported by sources. There aren't a lot of sources to support the "curse" theory though, more that the citations support the use of the term. Renamed and retargetted as Professional sport on the Gold Coast or similar would seem a reasonable outome. The "curse" could be mentioned as part of such an article but only consistent with the sources available to support it. As is "The history of consistent poor performances by Gold Coast professional sporting teams has given rise to the label of the "Gold Coast curse" [cite][cite][cite]. Supporters of the curse theory claim the origins of the curse are SomeBadAction [cite] or SomeOtherBadAction [cite]. Other explanataions offered for the poor performance include WhateverTheyAre [cite][cite]." Kerry (talk) 21:46, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
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 * Merge with Sports on the Gold Coast, Queensland. There is some good content in this article about the financial and ownership difficulties that Gold Coast-based teams have had, and it all forms a supporting framework for describing the socio-economic and cultural challenges of breaking into what has ultimately proven to be a fickle and much less lucrative than expected market – which is certainly an encyclopedic topic. The problem with the current article is that it takes all of this encyclopedic information and WP:SYNTHs it into an unencyclopedic article about a curse. Aspirex (talk) 00:32, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.