Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Golf Mill Shopping Center (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was keep. Non-admin closure. The Evil Spartan 06:29, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Golf Mill Shopping Center
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Apparently a non-notable mall. No independent sources have been given since March. Google returns some hits, but these seem to be largely directory listings in shopping and tourist guides. The previous AfD nomination (November 06) resulted in "speedy delete"; a recreated article was PRODded in March 07, but the PROD was contested. -- Sent here as part of the Notability wikiproject. --B. Wolterding (talk) 18:40, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, non-notable mall. I can't find any good sources either. Ten Pound Hammer  • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 19:32, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak keep, precedent is that super-regional malls are generally notable and this one is big enough to qualify. Hopefully the sources from Zagale-whatever will be sufficient. Ten Pound Hammer  • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 20:31, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment It was a major shopping center when originally built (before 1956) and remained one of the largest in Chicagoland until perhaps recently (a decade or so). Not sure why there are so few sources but WP:N can be a bitch. I will say its heyday was definitely pre-internet. --Dhartung | Talk 03:43, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep A large super-regional mall with a gross leasable area just short of one million square feet. The mall dates back to 1960, making it one of the earliest large malls in an area that is now home to some of the nation's largest malls. A Google news Archive search on "Golf Mill shopping center" found 3,160 sources, not all of which seem relevant to expanding the article, but there seems to be more than enough here and available elsewhere to establish notability. Alansohn (talk) 23:32, 24 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Evil Spartan 07:48, 1 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep Ahh, I know this mall well. :) There's actually lots of material available in the Chicago Tribune archives at ProQuest (found using just "Golf Mill" as my search term). Stuff like this, this, this, this, this, etc. I'm confident I could whip this article into shape; just give me a little time. Zagalejo^^^ 10:30, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep I thought there was a consensus that super-regional malls are inherently notable centers of commerce. RFerreira 08:36, 2 December 2007 (UTC)


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