Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gollum: How We Made Movie Magic


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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:27, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Gollum: How We Made Movie Magic

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Fails WP:NBOOK. Only review I found was at, which is the website for bookseller Powell's Books. Not sure if that review counts as an RS, even if it does, we need more than that. An interview with the author by NPR is essentially a primary source as does not demonstrate notability. Hog Farm (talk) 00:31, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
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 * Comment - Regardless of whether or not it counts as a Reliable Source, the link to Powell's website wouldn't really help establish notability, as there is not actually a review on the page. Its simply a copy of the publisher's official synopsis and about the author page.  I have not looked for additional sources yet, but if there are none, then it should probably be used as a Redirect to Andy Serkis, where it is already mentioned, at the very least.  Rorshacma (talk) 02:15, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete There are no sources that establish notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:02, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. WP:BOOKCRIT is pretty clear: neither an author interview nor a bookseller constitute independent sources. BenKuykendall (talk) 22:52, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete these don't qualify as independent sources and can't establish a neutral, reliable article. Jontesta (talk) 23:31, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Andy Serkis, not seeing independent notability, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 19:54, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not seeing any reliable book reviews or awards, so fails NBOOK. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 04:16, 19 May 2020 (UTC)


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