Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Good Day New York


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The result was   keep.  MBisanz  talk 11:03, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Good Day New York

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No more notable than Good Day Tampa Bay which was AFD'd months ago. Microremote (talk) 05:26, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep per, , , , . Is that enough sources to be going with? Brilliantine (talk) 05:44, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not a reason for deletion.   Esradekan Gibb    "Talk" 05:46, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Compare as the East Coast equivalent of Good Day LA; definitely a notable program as part of Fox's morning television efforts in that market and competitve with the network morning shows. Good Day Tampa Bay was cited as a deletion reason, however that program airs in a minor market and was easily merged into the station article. This doesn't compare to Tampa.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 10:54, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Procedural Weak Keep as WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS appears to be the only apparent rationale. Looking at the Good Day "family" though I'm thinking some merging and redirecting needs to be done. The dab page is predominantly redlinks, the  L.A. article has nothing showing the show as particularly notable and without any sort of referencing, and the  Tampa Bay one is just a redirect to the station. I suggest covering them all at the Good Day (newscast) article and referencing as appropriate. Jasynnash2 (talk) 12:20, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The sources provided above refer specifically to the New York one. Probably someone should stick them in the article. I might do later if I have time, but this isn't my area of expertise at all - I'd be more comfortable with someone who knows anything about US TV doing it. Brilliantine (talk) 12:23, 10 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  14:02, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  14:02, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - I never said sourcing was the problem I said notability. And I agree with Jasynnash2. it sould be redirected to Good Day (newscast).Microremote (talk) 16:54, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I would say that multiple full-length New York Times articles are enough to establish notability - at least two of them are whole articles on the programme and its history. Brilliantine (talk) 22:08, 10 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete Not everything in the New York Times is of national and interational interest. We have to remember that the Times must also cover local news for the benefit of its readers, most of whom live in New York City.  I haven't seen a source that shows that "Good Day New York" is the subject of a discussion outside of the New York area.  The analogy to "Good Day Tampa Bay" is correct.  Mandsford (talk) 13:25, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * One of the sources discusses how its success led to several similar shows being started elsewhere in the country. In any case, local newspapers (if you are going to call the NYT that) are still reliable sources, the depth of coverage is quite good, and in the absence of any specific notability guideline for news shows, I think it is fairly clear that the article subject passes WP:GNG. Brilliantine (talk) 16:19, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Nobody disputes that the New York Times is a reliable source. But I am going to call it a "local newspaper" as far as its section that's called "NY/region", in order to balance the "It's in the New York Times, therefore it must be notable" argument.  As all Times readers know, it contains "all the news that's fit to print", and fitness and notability are different concepts.  WNYW is inherently notable, there being a policy on that, whether it's watched outside of the northeast USA or not; but a program on WNYW isn't entitled to the same pass.  I've yet to see anything that says that a television show seen on one station is, per se, notable.  Otherwise, articles about 18 Action News in Elmira would be automatic keepers.  I know that you cited something from the publication Broadcasting and Cable, though it seems to be about the station's anchor rather than about the tation itself.  Mandsford (talk) 16:48, 11 September 2008 (UTC)


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