Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Goodnight Goodnight (Maroon 5 song)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to It Won't Be Soon Before Long. (non-admin closure) WJ94 (talk) 21:05, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

Goodnight Goodnight (Maroon 5 song)

 * – ( View AfD View log | edits since nomination)

Fails WP:NSONG. Most of this article consists simply of statements of facts regarding its release (it appears to have only been officially released in one country in the world) and its accompanying video, which aren't indications of notability, and are mostly cited to some very poor sources that fail WP:RS. The only two claims to fame are the fact that it was used by a TV channel to promote the season's new line-up, and that it allegedly reached number one in Hong Kong, although I'm not sure there are any official Hong Kong music charts, and there is absolutely no way of verifying this claim, as the article re-creator admits the web page has been lost forever, so we are supposed to simply accept his word for it. In any case, I am baffled by the statement in the lead that the song apparently reached number one before it was released – as this was 2008 and before streaming was included in the charts, I don't understand how it would be possible to reach number one without being available to purchase or stream in any way. So all we have here is a promotional campaign, and a non-verifiable supposed number one – I don't see how there is enough here to pass WP:NSONG, but the article has been recreated repeatedly after redirecting to It Won't Be Soon Before Long, which would be my preferred option. Richard3120 (talk) 20:27, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. Richard3120 (talk) 20:27, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. Richard3120 (talk) 20:27, 23 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Redirect per nomination. Looks to be a failure of NSONGS. I would need to see proof of hitting number 1 in Hong Kong before I could even begin to factor that in. I have a hard time understanding how this American band would have a Hong Kong number one with a song that failed to chart anywhere else in the world, in an era before songs really "went viral" to boot. Sergecross73   msg me  20:36, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * An old version of this page had the source. I'm trusting that. BoxxyBoy (talk) 20:43, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * We have never had any Hong Kong music chart recognized as official on Wikipedia. I'd like to know what the old version of the article was using as the "Hong Kong chart". Richard3120 (talk) 20:54, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Look in the version history. BoxxyBoy (talk) 21:53, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * The WP:BURDEN is on you to convince people that this dead link should be trusted. Why should we even believe it was a reliable source at all? Sergecross73   msg me  22:05, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I can see the dead link address in the edit history. It's a series of numbers followed by ".com", which isn't the kind of web address normally associated with a reliable chart provider. And it was added by an editor whose talk page is full of complaints from other editors about adding unreliable chart sources. Richard3120 (talk) 22:27, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm not. Hitting number one in a national chart is not typically a difficult to source feat. It's very suspect that we can't find a source for this, doubly so with this particular band/song/country combo. Sergecross73   msg me  21:05, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Redirect to It Won't Be Soon Before Long: Even if the Hong Kong chart were reliable, the song doesn't meet any other tenets of NSONG, nor the GNG, and that chart alone would not save this. Was a very late single release (a year and a half after the album), not very surprising that it didn't get as much coverage as the prior singles. QuietHere (talk) 00:12, 24 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Redirect to It Won't Be Soon Before Long. Fails WP:NSONG per above arguments. SBKSPP (talk) 01:16, 28 January 2023 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.