Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gotham City Police Department


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The result was redirect to Gotham City. Missvain (talk) 22:30, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Gotham City Police Department

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Niche Batmancruft. Pure plot summary referenced (poorly) to comics/TV series episodes, coupled with some usual OR. No reception, significance, etc. Fails WP:NFICTION/GNG. BEFORE fails to reveal anything that is not a plot-summary, and very short at that, b/c even the usual DC/Batman fanpedias don't have much to say about this background entities. Granted, for a moment I thought we have something when I found this (an academic article titled Is Batman a State Actor: The Dark Knight's Relationship with the Gotham City Policy Department and the Fourth Amendment Implications), but sadly, inside there is next to nothing about the department, the discussion mostly focuses on Batman and real law, and the department is mentioned just a few times in the background (plot summary as usual). Note that there is an upcoming Batman movie that will focus on this entity, but hey - we had an entire 5 seasons of TV show that did the same and produced nothing usable, sources-wise, and recent coverage like is not about this entity, but about the upcoming movie. Let's avoid conflating those entities. Still, maybe I did miss something that is not a plot summary - if so, please point that out with quotations. TIA. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 10:49, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
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 * Delete - can't say anything more than what has said. Does not meet WP:GNG.  Onel 5969  TT me 13:53, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete As per nom and onel5969, fails GNG and BASIC. Frigidpolarbear (talk) 16:07, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep - Let this page stay. This police department is a supporting group for Batman. Even if it some people want it sent to the Gotham City page, where will we list it's members if the page is deleted and some of it's members might redirect here? --Rtkat3 (talk) 18:59, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
 * , Are you saying WP:ITSUSEFUL? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 07:35, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes I am. Outside of my claim, the GCPD did have it's own comic series that focused on it's known members there. --Rtkat3 (talk) 16:01, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
 * , Assuming the series is notable, it may be a good place to preserve some relevant content. A redirect there would be about as useful. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 04:39, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Gotham Central is a notable comic series that takes place at the Gotham City Police Department. --Rtkat3 (talk) 18:19, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment to the AFD closer: If Gotham City Police Department is deleted, could you have it go through WP:SOFTDELETE so that there's a chance that it can be redirected to Gotham City should that happen like how somebody created a redirect for the Metropolis Police Department? That way, it would be in the spirit of WP:PRESERVE. --Rtkat3 (talk) 18:19, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Request endorsed by me (nom). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 02:53, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep There have been several comic book series focusing on the department as well as a TV series and another upcoming TV series. As usual the problem with this article (and many other notable comic book topics) is a lack of effort it making something good out of it instead of just letting cruft run amok until the page is a disaster.★Trekker (talk) 12:04, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 * , You imply this can be good. For that we need to show there are sources. I am not a deletionist - I just wrote Dejarik after I found that article on pl wiki and did a source check (and improved the Polish one than translated it here, it was mostly fancrufty before on pl wiki and nobody even bothered writing this up here). I'd be happy to save GCPD - if there were sources. As those have not been found, your argument is sadly a wishful WP:THEREMUSTBESOURCES so we can fix it. I am sorry, but first, find the sources. Per WP:BURDEN etc. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 07:55, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete unless sufficient sources are brought forth. Gotham City is most certainly notable, so this topic can easily be summarized there without issue. The current article is just a collection of random Wikia-tier information with zero real world relevance that I can see, so deletion and a new redirect/summary would be the best course of action. TTN (talk) 18:24, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep but maybe modify and trim a lot., , demonstrate that the upcoming HBO series of this name (?) is going to get significant future RS coverage. Deleting it outright is likely a bad idea; merging it to Gotham City is reasonable. But the real question in my mind is "where is this going once (if?) a major network TV show starts?"  I bet we're going to see a number of reasonable RS comparisons between the comics and the TV show--we've certainly seen plenty of that with the Marvel and Game of Thrones adaptations. Jclemens (talk) 14:54, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect or Merge to Gotham City ---> If the new series produces some significant coverage, we can always restore it. Right now, there is not much there outside the fan-written plot. - GizzyCatBella  🍁  04:18, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kichu🐘 Need any help?</i> 15:10, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Gotham City - I concur with GizzyCatBella. Currently, there is not a lot that isn't just plot, but that might change once the new show, which the majority of the secondary sources out there are actually about, premiers.  At that point, it could potentially be spun back out if there are sufficient reliable sources.  Rorshacma (talk) 01:17, 4 May 2021 (UTC)


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