Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Governor and Company of the Mattachusetts Bay in Newe-England


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Both Speedy deleted as patent nonsense. I read both of the articles three times through and could not get even the slightest sense of what they were saying. Stifle (talk) 23:28, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Governor and Company of the Mattachusetts Bay in Newe-England

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Article lacks any context and comes off as nonsensical. Presumably this is an excerpt from the Charter of Massachusetts Bay? If so, this information would be better off in an article on the Charter as a whole, which provides context and sources. Fullobeans (talk) 21:36, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Talk to user maybe you should have a chat with the editor who created this, Amovrvs, they seem to be contributing usefully. Their user-page is in the same sort of gibberish format, and they evidently have several users on the go, but a look at their contribution logs shows good edits (for the most part, haven't looked in-depth). Take a look at Praedictus_Juratus as well, it's related and seems to have been added in the same go. Maybe Amovrvs (Amourus with latin letter-forms?) can be convinced to clean it up. BananaFiend (talk) 22:48, 28 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Massachusetts-related deletion discussions.   —• Gene93k (talk) 22:41, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Massachusetts Bay Colony, which the editor appears to be duplicating with archaic/historic names and spellings. • Gene93k (talk) 22:55, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: He's posted this same text on Massachusetts Bay Colony as well, but once again without context or explanation. Curious. I'll leave another note on his talk page encouraging him to enter this discussion. He's definitely up to something, and it could conceivably be something worthwhile.Fullobeans (talk) 01:57, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete both (change of vote). Mattachusetts is an obscure fork on Mass. Bay Colony. Even if Praedictus Juratus were correct, it would be obscure trivia (WP:DICDEF). Delete as an unsalvageable mess. • Gene93k (talk) 17:23, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: Perhaps "Mattachusetts" is a misreading of "Massachusetts" as spelled with the long s (which usually is misread as an "f", not a "t"). Newyorkbrad (talk) 00:51, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Perhaps transfer to WikiSource? Fg2 (talk) 01:13, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. Whatever this is supposed to be, it's not an encyclopedia article. I've taken the liberty of adding Praedictus Juratus, by the same author, to the nom, since it is complete balderdash. "Praedictus Matthaeus Cradocke Juratus est …" at the bottom of the Massachusetts Bay Charter simply means "The aforementioned (praedictus) Matthew Cradocke has been sworn (juratus est) …". "Praedictus Juratus" is not a title equivalent to "governor", as the article claims. It looks to me as though a lot of this editor's work will need to be scrutinized. If I've overstepped by the addition to the nom, let me know, and I'll create a new AfD for that article. Deor (talk) 03:13, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Speedy Delete both: as nonsense; this is WP:BULLSHIT country.   RGTraynor  03:25, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete both per Deor. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 03:58, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete both, and given the example Praedictus Juratus, which is a complete misunderstanding of the Latin appearing incidentally in the charter, I'm not so sure I would characterize this editor's contributions as "useful". --Dhartung | Talk 06:14, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Didn't mean to give the impression that this stuff was useful, merely that the editor has been involved in useful edits before. BananaFiend (talk) 20:23, 29 March 2008 (UTC)


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