Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Grace Ellis


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__ to Blue Lights (2023 TV series). Liz Read! Talk! 22:55, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Grace Ellis

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Fails GNG. Fancruft for a fictional character. Sources in the article do not meet WP:SIRS addressing the subject directly and indepth. Article contains a significant amount of original research and unsourced content (eg: Grace Ellis). Once the unsourced and original research not much is left other than material from promo interviews.

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No objection to a redirect to Blue Lights (2023 TV series). Author disputed even tagging the article.  // Timothy :: talk  18:28, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fictional elements, Television, Police,  and Northern Ireland.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 19:08, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Redirect per above source analysis, not enough coverage of the character, potentially become notable through planned two additional series but unlikely. Indagate (talk) 19:26, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment Per MOS:PLOTSOURCE. the plot/storyline sections do not need to be sourced, and it isn't uncommon to leave citations out of the lead either so I don't understand the claims of original research (Examples). The articles do count as independent as they talk about the character in depth through interviews - if the subject was not notable, the interviews would not have been arranged, and they are being arranged by sources independent of the show. Additionally, WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, this article is in no way different. FishLoveHam (talk) 22:06, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Plot sections don't normally have refs, but can have notes / refs to indicate where the plot comes from, in this case the episode. An independent interview requires all people involved to not have a connection to the discussion. What do you mean about WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS? That's an argument to avoid and you're the only person to link to another article. Indagate (talk) 12:14, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Redirect unless more sources relating to significant coverage of the character exists (see WP:FICT). The reception is just taking tidbits out of reviews for the show, not anything in-depth about the character. Spinixster   (trout me!)  11:58, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete/Redirect per source analysis. The sources don't provide enough coverage to meet WP:SIGCOV. Shooterwalker (talk) 01:07, 6 May 2024 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.