Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Grace Jabbari


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. I see a consensus to Delete.

But my personal opinion is that commenters here did not pay enough attention to improvements to the article since its nomination and the assault was just two sentences in the Personal life section while the Career section was the bulk of the article. But I'm here to enact the consensus of editors in a AFD discussion. Forgive me this lapse of decorum to share my view. Liz Read! Talk! 21:40, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Grace Jabbari

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This is a semi-procedural nomination. This person is only really notable for the relationship and subsequent assault trial of Jonathan Majors, which makes this a WP:BLP1E. I'm not comfortable about a redirect because of privacy concerns. I declined an WP:A7 tag because it's blatantly the wrong criteria, although WP:IAR / WP:BLPCRIME might apply, I'd rather have a discussion about it first. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  12:50, 19 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Weak Keep - Her role in the criminal proceeding is relevant. She has a whole career ahead of her and may become even more notable in the future. If this discussion concludes in deletion, the content should be downloaded or something for when her article could be re-published. Kirby777 (talk) 13:07, 19 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Dance and England.  Delta  space 42  (talk • contribs) 14:33, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete: First ref in the Independent is fine, but it's brief. talks about her, but it's in regards to the trial and conviction. I'm not sure being assaulted makes you notable, she wasn't noticed as a dancer before the fact, judging by the lack coverage before the event. Would be a routine dancer had the assault not happened.  Oaktree b (talk) 15:39, 19 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete: to brief of a mention. If anything, it is too soon for a page.
 * Wikisteveb4 (talk) 15:54, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:04, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete: This stub for a subject who is not notable in her own regard does not meet the WP:GNG, especially for WP:BLPs and is focused more on her involvement with Majors and does not pertain a significant coverage of the subject herself. In response to Kirby's concerns, any potential future endeavors of hers are irrelevant here and of a speculatory nature. This stub can be moved to the draftspace, per WP:DRAFTIFY, where editors can work on it until such a time it is deemed to be notable and qualify for the mainspace, and the current article title can easily redirect to Majors' article. WP:RECENTISM applies here.Trailblazer101 (talk) 01:44, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 18:36, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 18:36, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 18:36, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions.  WC  Quidditch   ☎   ✎  20:31, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete – Clearly BLP1E, hits on Google shows recent news coverage of Majors' assault and trial. As above, just mentions on reliable sources. Toadette  (Happy holiday!) 07:35, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Jonathan Majors. What privacy concerns? Her name is very clearly out there in the public domain. -- Necrothesp (talk) 09:59, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep Looking at the article now it's certainly much better than it was last night when I had to remove 'only known for her relationship' garbage; it's been appropriately expanded, now meets GNG, and is much more balanced to describe her career for the vast majority of the article with the RECENTISM reduced appropriately to the bare minimum. A major credit to for their proper sourcing and balancing of BLP to address the concerns that were raised above.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 00:05, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete 2600:1702:8C0:E650:C4A:DEFE:2FDF:E01D (talk) 05:26, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete - Seems like she's only largely known for her relation to Jonathan Majors and his trail. Doesn't seem like she was that notable in her own right prior. Clear Looking Glass (talk) 11:01, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep: Unless an article is created on Majors' trial, redirect to that. Kailash29792 (talk)  13:10, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete, she doesnt meet WP:NACTOR and notability isnt WP:INHERITED LADY LOTUS • <span style="text-shadow:4px 4px 15px #F80,-4px -4px 15px #F08;">TALK 15:15, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep Has clearly received significant coverage in reliable sources. Recent edits by Isi96 have drastically improved the article from where it was when this AfD was opened. --Grnrchst (talk) 15:30, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete no redirect, BLP1E. Andre<span style="border:2px solid #073642;background:rgb(255,156,0);background:linear-gradient(90deg, rgba(255,156,0,1) 0%, rgba(147,0,255,1) 45%, rgba(4,123,134,1) 87%);">🚐 00:02, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per Lady Lotus and Oaktree b, and also per BLP1E/BLPCRIME as outlined by the nominator. Daniel (talk) 19:43, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Draftify, and until if/when an article substantial article is written, redirect to Majors. The article certainly has potential but it remains to be seen whether she has any enduring notability, and I don't think that this is a case where she has any prior notability or substantial contributions. We have created substantial articles from survivors before – Christine Blasey Ford is perhaps my favorite example. There's a chance, but it's not meeting it now. We should give it that chance, though. That's why I'm saying draftify.  Invading Invader  (userpage, talk) 03:17, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete BLP1E, notability isnt WP:INHERITED. Fails GNG and NBIO. Nothing found showing this has WP:SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth. BLPs require strong sourcing.  // Timothy :: talk  07:17, 28 December 2023 (UTC)


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