Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Grad assault rifle


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Michig (talk) 06:02, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

Grad assault rifle

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DePRODded. Fails WP:GNG - could not find WP:RS. Someone might need to check for Russian sources. Ansh666 23:02, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Firearms-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:53, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:53, 15 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment - I tried under different variations ("Grad assault rifle" "grad AR") and found very little. I did add a single reference to support the weapon's origin, but do not believe the source would go towards establishing notability, just to support content within the article. I will refrain from voting at this time as based on the few mentions that I did find, I am of the belief that there are probably more foreign references out there if someone is willing to locate them. --FoolMeOnce2Times (talk) 23:22, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete, although the subject has received significant coverage in non-reliable sources, but no significant coverage in reliable sources, therefore the subject does not meet notability as defined by WP:GNG. Perhaps it is too soon for the subject of this AfD to be considered notable, but perhaps one day the subject may receive significant coverage from reliable source and this article can be recreated.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 06:24, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, czar   &middot;   &middot;  04:57, 22 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete for now, with no prejudice against recreation. I had a good look (actually a couple of times) and really couldn't find much at all. It was unclear if what I could find was based on this article or info from elsewhere. It all seemed a bit circular to me. My other problem was with the rather "colloquial" sounding name. "Grad" in Russian is "hail" (as in "hail from") isn't it? The suffix ~grad (like Stalingrad) is "city" but that wouldn't seem to apply here. So I tried searching some variations in Russian (which I don't read or write) and couldn't find any of the words in any combination in any targeted search. I'm just not seeing significant coverage. My instinct is that this is either a "street" name for a local variant or this title is a mistranslation that has been carried through to other English language sites. Maybe I'm wrong and it's something else. Either way, we would need more coverage for inclusion here. Stalwart 111  13:41, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete. Does not meet Wiki notability requirements. The main source of information on the internet for this firearm seems to be Wikipedia itself or a Wiki mirror.--RAF910 (talk) 15:06, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
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