Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Grail (DC Comics) (3rd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Darkseid. This is trending more towards the conclusion that the topic isn't notable, mainly due to lack of evidence to the contrary - we need some measure of sourcing to establish that and mere assertions are not enough; the redirect argument is perhaps the most detailed presented here. Also, there isn't any policy-based reason I know of to insult other people at AFD, no matter how much they annoy you. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 15:58, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

Grail (DC Comics)
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Non-notable fictional topic. This is not the same topic from previous AfDs under this name. TTN (talk) 12:24, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. TTN (talk) 12:24, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletion discussions. TTN (talk) 12:24, 6 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep Notable fictional topic. Andrew D. (talk) 12:26, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Snark only works if you actually have something you could use to justify your position. I guess continue acting like a petulant child if you think that helps. TTN (talk) 12:44, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi, can you please refrain from using AfD debates to insult other editors? Ford MF (talk) 00:11, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Towards him? No. He is completely disingenuous. While I definitely disagree your over sourcing standards on most of these AfDs, I can at least respect that you're doing everything in good faith. He is not. TTN (talk) 00:25, 9 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Darkseid, where she is already covered in quite a bit of detail. A relatively recent character, she does not appear to have much in the way of non-plot summary coverage in reliable secondary sources.  As all of her appearances have been in connection with her notable father and, as I said, she is covered quite a bit there already, redirecting to Darkseid's article makes the most sense.  Merging is not really necessary as there is not much in the way of content here, and the small bits of primary sourced story content is already largely included in Darkseid's article already.  Rorshacma (talk) 16:06, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Darkseid per Rorshacma as not individually notable.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 18:28, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete Not notable if you don't have any sources outside her own appearances, still doesn't need own article. Reywas92Talk 18:35, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep comparatively new but currently significant character in the DC landscape. Tidied article a bit and added further refs. Ford MF (talk) 00:10, 9 November 2019 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.