Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gramercy Property Trust


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Yunshui 雲 水 08:57, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Gramercy Property Trust

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Delete The references are all based on company announcements and they fail WP:ORGIND. There doesn't appear to be any references that meet the criteria for establishing notability. A footnote in The Blackstone Group would be more appropriate. Topic fails WP:NCORP.  HighKing++ 15:52, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions.  HighKing++ 15:53, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. GameInfirmary Talk 16:32, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 22:21, 7 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment. A company listed on the New York Stock Exchange is likely to be notable. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 22:54, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
 * What? Anybody can set up a business and launch it as a public company by having it listed on a stock exchange, and if you are in the United States there is a high probability that you will do so on the New York Stock Exchange, since that is by an overwhelming margin the biggest stock exchange in the country. (In fact it is by far the biggest in the world.) There are not far short of 3000 companies listed, of which many are not remotely notable, by Wikipedia's standards or any other standards. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 09:57, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
 * . For notability of listed companies, please see WP:LISTED. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 12:57, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

"There has been considerable discussion over time whether publicly traded corporations, or at least publicly traded corporations listed on major stock exchanges such as the NYSE and other comparable international stock exchanges, are inherently notable. Consensus has been that notability is not automatic in this (or any other) case. However, sufficient independent sources almost always exist for such companies, so that notability can be established using the primary criterion discussed above. Examples of such sources include independent press coverage and analyst reports. Accordingly, article authors should make sure to seek out such coverage and add references to such articles to properly establish notability."

"Editors coming across an article on such a company without such references are encouraged to search (or request that others search) prior to nominating for deletion, given the very high (but not certain) likelihood that a publicly traded company is actually notable according to the primary criterion."  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 02:55, 14 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. The article is poorly written, with just simple sentences bulleted down, as if it were a fact list. Revisit if the article is neatened up. Redditaddict69</b> <sup style="color:#339900">(click here if I screwed up stuff again) <sup style="color:3300FF">(edits)   06:53, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete: being WP:LISTED is not a free-for-all; sources are still required. They are lacking in this case; promotional page. K.e.coffman (talk) 01:17, 16 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete or merge a bit into the Blackstone Group since they've all but takenover the company (awaiting shareholder approval). BTW R.E.I.Ts commonly trade on the NYSE, but are not stocks in any of the usual senses, more like a RE mutual fund.  I would generally support the idea of making companies with stocks trading actively on major exchanges automatically notable.  But REITs, pink sheet listings, etc. need not apply. Smallbones( smalltalk ) 02:10, 20 August 2018 (UTC)


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