Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Grand Belial's Key


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was keep. - Mailer Diablo 15:20, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Grand Belial's Key
An obscure black metal band, speedied as A7 but contested. Nothing on allmusic, nothing on Amazon, one former member who was once amember of an even more obscure band. Guy 09:01, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Thryduulf 09:14, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete - first twenty ghits are basically lists of lyrics. Doesn't meet the requirement of many independant sources verifing notability. MER-C 09:43, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. Meets WP:MUSIC with international tours, including three concerts just in a small/medium-sized country like Finland concert review, signed to a notable record label, Drakkar Entertainment, released 11 recordings, including three full-lengths, three EPs and a compilation, mentioned as the "fathers of US black metal" , Encyclopaedia Metallum page  ID is 270 showing the band was among the first ones added to the database, covered in Decibel magazine due to their controversy , one band member in Arghoslent and one in Ancient , over 1000 listeners on Last.fm . Also, it's not fair to assume that Allmusic.com and Amazon.com want to cover bands associated with nazism. Prolog 12:31, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I am tempted to vote Delete because a lot of those articles either barely mention the band or are from places I would question as good sources. However, my main problem is that, although the article mentions that they are signed with Drakkar Entertainment, I do not see them listed on Drakkar's site - Ektar 19:18, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep per Prolog. --badlydrawnjeff talk 12:52, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep the band gets 37,400 google hits; see metal archives, rockdetector, Belial's Key last.fm,, Belial's Key, , , etc. Also, several wikipedia articles link to it (Black metal, NSBM, Neo-Nazism, list of black metal bands for example). Iron C hris |  (talk) 15:46, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep as above -- N  R S T/M\B 17:38, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep as above Punkmorten 18:52, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep per Prolog and others above. Seems clearly to pass WP:MUSIC. AmitDeshwar 01:00, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep as above, they are not on Drakkar Entertainment but instead on DRAKKAR Productions, http://www.drakkar666.com/ which is a label that has been established in the underground for a very long time before DRAKKAR Entertainment came along. Assuming that Amazon.com and Allmusic.com would possibly cover a decent variety of underground artists is laughable. sulphursouls
 * Keep. Just becaus ethey aren't on allmusic.com doesnt mean they arent a noteable band. Other bands such as Turisas were't there before as well, until recently. Bloodredchaos 10:22, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Abstain. I abstain from voting.--83.118.141.133 15:04, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. Due to the controversial nature of their music, it is perfectly understandable why allmusic or amazon might not associate with them.  Silensor 17:20, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep per the above, particularly Prolog. --Myles Long 17:29, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep per prolog... I'm the one who speedy undeleted it.  ALKIVAR &trade;[[Image:Radioactive.svg|18px|]] 22:00, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep per Prolog but someone with time should add a section about the controversy to the article. JoshuaZ 02:42, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep per Prolog. Sufficiently notable to meet WP:MUSIC in my opinion.  RFerreira 23:13, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. This does not meet my taste in music, but I believe it does agree with the WP:MUSIC guidelines.  Yamaguchi先生 09:50, 30 September 2006


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.