Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Grand Buffet

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was keep. Sjakkalle 09:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

Grand Buffet
Non-notable band vanity. Fawcett5 02:09, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

NOTE article was previously deleted following Vfd: Deletion log archive/November 2004 (2)


 * Keep - it's a legit alt/indie-rap band, it links to other notable bands associated with (Cex and Sage Francis), has a nearly ten-year track record. They're not selling out arenas, but they're an important and active East Coast/Pittsburgh band connected to a genre of rising prominence. Full disclosure: I did edit this article, but I didn't originate it (original was written on "Grand buffet", not "Grand Buffet" - check history), and no, I am not a member of the band. Just because they're not mainstream doesn't mean they shouldn't be here. --Girolamo Savonarola 03:43, 2005 May 8 (UTC)
 * Also looking at WP:MUSIC section, they have clearly qualified under criterion number 2 (see Official site) as they are currently touring in Europe; they have done this before, as well as going on several US nationwide tours and at least one tour of Canada (see article). I'd also argue criterion 6, although that is of course not as objectively verifiable as number 2. They also have representation via the Kork Agency, which handles many significant indie music acts; they've played SXSW; and toured with Wesley Willis. --Girolamo Savonarola 04:04, 2005 May 8 (UTC)
 * Keep. Well written article about notable band.  Buy tickets.  Previous VFD is irrelevant because the content of that article was "the most awesome duo ever!".  &mdash; Teknic Talk/Mail 07:14, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Non-notable band--claims of European tour unsubstantiated by their website. Amazon.com hasn't heard of them--allmusic barely has--lists one album--doesn't meet WikiProject Music/Notability and Music Guidelines criteria. Zero hits for "Grand Buffet" rap swsx--above claims highly suspect. Both Keep votes by users with very few edits. Anybody can cut CDs in their garage nowadays--doesn't mean they should have articles. Niteowlneils 08:01, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
 * User:Girolamo Savonarola has over 150 edits going back to July, 2004. User:Teknic has over 200 edits dating back to February, 2005.  That's nowhere near "few" enough to discount them.  Postdlf 10:12, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
 * 1) 12 city European tour is substantiated by their website. Please familiarize yourself with the music notability criteria.
 * Wow, I got zero hits for "Grand Buffet" rap swsx too. Don't see how that's relevant though as it's "sxsw", not "swsx"
 * 1) Like Postdlf said, both Girolamo Savonarola and I have far more edits than the minimum for voting. &mdash; Teknic Talk/Mail 14:32, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
 * SXSW page, See "Sage Francis" entry under Tour Dates link, and Extensive European and US tours go back to February 2003. I am happy to show verifiable information to back up all sections brought into question. --Girolamo Savonarola 14:45, 2005 May 8 (UTC)
 * Delete, not notable, sections of this article are unverifiable. Megan1967 08:46, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Such as? --Girolamo Savonarola 15:18, 2005 May 8 (UTC)
 * Keep. Not a bad article, band has AMG entry (however brief it is).  Previous vfd not binding on this completely different article.  Postdlf 09:47, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Allmusic and a European tour for a U.S. band clearly indicate notability and pass WP:MUSIC. Meelar (talk) 22:10, May 8, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Allmusic.com shows two albums albeit on small indy labels. Tour shows that they meet at least 1 of the Wikimusic guidelines.Capitalistroadster 23:26, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, two albums and a tour is good enough for me. Kappa 20:15, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
 * keep since it meets wp:music Yuckfoo 17:58, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
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