Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Grand Prix Dressage


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   redirect to Dressage. Ron Ritzman (talk) 13:04, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Grand Prix Dressage

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This article duplicates material in the main Dressage article in which it is discussed under the poorly named subsection Olympic_level. My PROD was contested, the response This is an independent event, not only Olympics. missing the point imo - the Olympic level section name in Dressage should be changed to Grand Prix dressage with a mention that the Olympics choose to use the Grand Prix dressage competition regulations -- John (Daytona2 · &#32; Talk · &#32; Contribs) 10:33, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:08, 28 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Oppose. The article is weak, but needs improvement and expansion, not deletion. This is basically like saying you should delete Formula One because it is briefly mentioned in NASCAR.  The Dressage article also needs work, but hey, there are only about five truly active members at WPEQ and about 2,000 articles, so give us some time, please. Montanabw (talk) 03:02, 29 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Comment. Your analogy doesn't work - the Formula 1 article is a B rated article containing a detailed description. Grand Prix Dressage has sparse information that duplicates the main Dressage article - it has not got sufficient information to warrant being a separate article, neither has it any references. Normal Wikipedia practise is to develop information in the main article and only if there is sufficient information, to then move it to a subsidiary article. -- John (Daytona2 · &#32; Talk · &#32; Contribs) 20:11, 29 October 2010 (UTC)


 * You missed my point. I'm not saying the article is high quality, I'm saying Don't demolish the house while it's still being built.  The article needs to be improved, sure; and tagged for improvement, definitely; but not deleted.  It needs to exist, even if it's not going to get fixed right this instant.  If we deleted everything in wiki that wasn't B class, nothing would ever be written.   Montanabw (talk) 06:34, 30 October 2010 (UTC)


 * There's no need for it to exist when it's a poor duplication of the main article, and this after 6 years of 'development'. Normal Wikipedia practise is to develop information in the main article and only if there is sufficient information, to then move it to a subsidiary article.


 * I don't see anyone saying that everything in wiki that isn't B class should be deleted. -- John (Daytona2 · &#32; Talk · &#32; Contribs) 21:10, 30 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, I would be OK with a merge of this material (minus the laundry list of people) into the Dressage article with this title remaining as a redirect, if that would settle the matter. (And we definitely don't need the laundry list of people, that's what categories are for...).  But someone else needs to do the merge -- if someone else copies and pastes the material into the Olympics section of the Dressage article, I can probably do the cleanup in a few weeks, though too busy now.   Montanabw (talk) 00:36, 31 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes I'm happy with that, presumably the closing admin can do it. -- John (Daytona2 · &#32; Talk · &#32; Contribs) 13:15, 1 November 2010 (UTC)


 * I went ahead and did it, creating the redirect. I don't know how to tell an admin that we need to close this now, can someone do the remaining cleanup?   Montanabw (talk) 18:31, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.