Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Grand Restaurant Karel V


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep. There does not seem to be any deletion rationale given by the proposer. Whether the article should be merged or not is an issue for talk page discussions, not AfD. Randykitty (talk) 10:30, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Grand Restaurant Karel V

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Instead of waiting till this article is destroyed by a merger, I suggest to remove it beforehand. The merge proposal of this article suggest that this Michelin starred restaurant is not notable enough for a place on its own and should better by added to a later written, partly double (Duitse Huis, this article) and in an advertising style written article. The Banner talk 19:23, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

There is already consensus to merge this on the talk page of Talk:Grand Hotel Karel V, so an AFD is unnecessary. The nominator was the original creator of the article and even admits to bringing this here to escape consensus elsewhere. I'd suggest a good admin to close this as a bad faith nom. I have supported a merger but that's if no more info can be added actually about the restaurant. I know that some of the Dorchester's restaurants are notable in their own right and this might be too if it is well documented and made to resemble a restaurant article with decent reviews and info about the cuisine. In its present condition (with the history being irrelevant to the actual restuarant) it would be best to merge. ♦ Dr. Blofeld  20:14, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Consensus between you and your friends, yes. Let us wait what the rest of the world thinks. The Banner talk 21:03, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
 * No, anybody who suggested a merge is a very experienced editor in their own right and would never support or oppose something they didn't actually agree with. In fact I'd say they're likely to be representative of what most other regulars would agree with. I've said that if you expand this with info on the cuisine and restaurant reviews it would be worth keeping in its own right. Contrary to what you think, I'm thinking in terms of what is more convenient for our readers and providing knowledge, not doing this out of some vendetta which you seem to think it's all about. As it is it barely has a few lines about the actual restaurant and the history info is redundant to the Duis article. Merging those few lines isn't problematic, but if you write a well researched entry with details on cuisine and reviews then it would be too bloated to merge.♦ Dr. Blofeld  22:03, 27 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Oppose. The outstanding proposal to merge the article into Grand Hotel Karel V seems likely to be accepted, in which case this title will be made a redirect to that article. Leaving the title as a redirect to a section in the parent article is more useful to readers than removing the title. If more information emerges about the restaurant than can reasonably be covered in the parent hotel article, the redirect can easily be turned back into a separate article. Aymatth2 (talk) 01:07, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Netherlands-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:26, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
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 * Oppose. As per Aymatth2 above - Grand Hotel Karel V even has a restaurants subcategory already, so it would be of no difficulty at all to make the merge. Miyagawa (talk) 09:01, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.