Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Grande Loja Legal de Portugal/GLRP


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The result was   delete. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 03:37, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Grande Loja Legal de Portugal/GLRP
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Does not meet ORG or CLUB. No substantial coverage in secondary sources. Its activities cannot be verified, and it is not the only group of its type in Portugal. MSJapan (talk) 03:33, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

I am shifting my opinion to Delete... After attempting to write an article on Freemasonry in Portugal, I am finding very little in the way of reliable sources on the topic. All we seem to have are the websites of the various bodies which exist. While this shows that the bodies exist, they do not indicate that any of them are notable. It seems that, unlike other nations, Freemasonry did not play a big roll in Portugese history or society. Blueboar (talk) 20:07, 21 May 2009 (UTC) 
 * Merge or Week Delete - This organization is recognized by the United Grand Lodge of England, so it has a claim to notability.  However, at last estimate it consisted of only about 900 members in 65 lodges (which is tiny by Masonic standards).  I think the real issue here is the lack of reliable sources that discuss the org (and especially the lack of secondary sources that are independant of the subject). Without such sourcing, I don't think it is notable enough for a stand alone article.  However, it may be notable enough for inclusion in a general article on Freemasonry in Portugal.  I would also merge in the articles about other Masonic orgs in Portugal (the larger Grande Oriente Lusitano and the smaller Grande Loja Regular de Portugal) into that general article.  None of these orgs, on their own, have the sourcing to establish notability.... but they might if put together under the broader discussion of Freemasonry in Portugal. Blueboar (talk) 14:01, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:00, 20 May 2009 (UTC)


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