Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Grangeside School


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The result was   keep. WP:SNOW The Bushranger One ping only 12:59, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Grangeside School

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Appears to be a non-notable school. Whilst it is a secondary-level school, it is actually a Special Educational Needs school, which I don't think is granted any kind of automatic notability. What we're therefore left with is a school that appears to fail GNG, as all of its coverage comes from local sources. Searching for "Basingstoke School Plus" doesn't help either. Luke no 94 (tell Luke off here) 07:05, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 07:21, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 07:21, 7 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete Non-notable, the only news sources are local (Redacted) . Complete failure of notability. No reliable sources (Redacted) 149.254.56.84 (talk) 10:01, 7 August 2013 (UTC) — 149.254.56.84 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Keep Standard notable secondary school. Article rewritten with reliable sources. Black Kite (talk) 11:32, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
 * No, it's not a standard school... did you read the nomination at all? All the coverage you added is local or routine (Ofsted), in some cases both. Luke no 94  (tell Luke off here) 11:44, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Except that it is a secondary school (otherwise it wouldn't appear on the DFE tables), and therefore presumed to be notable per WP:NHS. As an aside, though, what other coverage of a school would you expect?  Schools don't tend to make national news except in exceptional circumstances. Black Kite (talk) 12:04, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
 * It's a SEN school, and the "presumed notable" bit only applies to regular schools. I don't expect any more coverage; that's the whole point, and that's why it fails the notability guidelines. Given that an admin tagged it as failing notability as well... Luke no 94  (tell Luke off here) 12:10, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, the admin tagged it when it was a one-line microstub. Anyway, it's a special school, not a SEN school, and we have dozens of articles for those - we even have a category (Category:Special schools in England) with 36 sub-categories.  Are all these schools non-notable as well? Black Kite (talk) 12:18, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I tagged it, yesterday, I wouldn't tag it today. GB fan 12:21, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

→Davey 2010→ →Talk to me!→  13:10, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep. It's still a secondary school, whether it's special or not. Article had been rewritten by Black Kite to use reliable sources. Only a tiny amount if schools will receive anything more than local news. Ncoat13 (talk) 12:20, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep per User:Ncoat13 - It's still a secondary school, whether it's special or not. -
 * Keep - Secondary schools are presumed notable. Not "normal" secondary schools, not "standard" secondary schools, secondary schools. This is a secondary school. Regardless of anything else, that makes it presumed notable. I personally hate that presumption, but it's the presumption that has backing at this time... ~ Charmlet -talk- 16:11, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep - now an adequately sourced article on an encyclopaedic subject. The Whispering Wind (talk) 18:26, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep - secondary schools in general are presumed notable, and in any case has WP:RS now. Ansh666 18:38, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep - Any school that is verified to serve secondary education is presumed to be notable. (WP:NHS) Frankly, we shouldn't really concern ourselves with what kind of students enroll here. Michaelzeng7 (talk) 18:56, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep - Verified secondary school articles are typically covered in the encyclopedia. See WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES and Notability (high schools). Northamerica1000(talk) 12:31, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
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