Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Granite Dells, Arizona


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The result was merge to Granite Dells. Liz Read! Talk! 03:48, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

Granite Dells, Arizona

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Appears to be a duplicate of Granite Dells. Although there's significant coverage of camps, events, etc in and around the geological formation, there's no evidence of a separate "populated place" that we would need to cover separately, particularly in its current stub form. –dlthewave ☎ 02:02, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Geography and Arizona. –dlthewave ☎ 02:02, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * delete The topos suggest that this is a case of bad map reading on the mappers' part, because older maps show "Granite Dells" in the physical feature sanserif font at the same spot where the Roman pop place label shows up later. I couldn't find anything that suggested that anyone thinks of this as anything other than a physical feature/locale. Mangoe (talk) 02:30, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. Yavapai County is almost as large as New Jersey, so any developed cluster tends to pick up a name. There is a area there with around 100 homes or homesites I think and it is known locally as the Granite Dells community, but it is more of a rural neighborhood. It lacks anything more that would allow development of an article. MB 03:03, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep literally hundreds of articles about this place from the early 1900s through the 2000s. Began as the site of a sanitorium, then became a resort, as well as the hosting a film studio which was used as the HQ for Hollywood studios doing location shooting in the area, and finally a subdivision outside Prescott.  Here's just two of the recent articles, this and this Onel 5969  TT me 09:37, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Leaning towards Merging this article Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 03:10, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect and merge any relevant information about the resort, film studio, etc. to Granite Dells. Both sources describe the geologic feature ("The otherworldly rock formations can be found north of Prescott", "They Paynes' conservation easement covers Granite Dells boulder piles..."). The resort, sanitarium, and subdivision can be described as human features at the natural site. Reywas92Talk 16:34, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I agree, that would be the best solution.  Onel 5969  TT me 19:48, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete and/or Merge In the right case, I think there can be a basis for keeping a small population center's article separate from the article on the natural feature for which it is named. Thinking locally to me, see, e.g., Kent, Connecticut vs. Kent Falls State Park. However, at least moderate Googling supports (to me) what OP said: there is no evidence of a separate 'Granite Dells' populated place. Rather, it seems 'the' Granite Dells are located in Prescott, Arizona (as that article indicates), and this Granite Dells population center is either non-existent or just a non-notable neighborhood-type area within Prescott. Staxringold talkcontribs 14:05, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Prescott, Arizona does not says the Dells are located there, it says "just north of the Prescott city center". They are in fact in an unincorporated area of the county. If there is a Merge/Redirect, it should be to either Yavapai County or Granite Dells. MB 19:46, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I should've been clear, I was saying merge into the Granite Dells article. To your point, though, I took that to mean they still lay within the city, just north of the city center, but if they are truly in a separate, unincorporated area, my apologies. Staxringold talkcontribs 20:51, 26 September 2022 (UTC)


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