Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Grant Arthur Gochin


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The result was delete. Not as much input as I'd like to see, but sufficient to demonstrate that the subject doesn't meet WP:NBIO. -- RoySmith (talk) 13:57, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

Grant Arthur Gochin

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Fails WP:ANYBIO. None of the sources are in-depth coverage in RS. The majority are affiliated or simple announcements or passing mentions. I found quite a few mentions of him in the affaire of the plaque in Lithuania but none was in depth coverage they simply said he had sued the government several times about this plaque. this is not enough to show notability. Dom from Paris (talk) 23:29, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
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 * Comment He has played a role in the reevaluation of Jonas Noreika and a redirect to that article where he is already briefly mentioned might be appropriate per WP:BIO1E. I am not finding coverage in English about him in other contexts besides the brief LA Magazine mention, and, the book that is named is self-published (CreateSpace) and unreviewed as best I can determine. 24.151.50.175 (talk) 16:36, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment -- I am not qualified to judge the significance of his activism concerning the holocaust, but for the rest he is clearly NN, including as Honorary Consul. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:21, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete, agree that notability is not shown. Renata (talk) 19:18, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep Grant Gochin currently plays a large role in researching and exposing Holocaust Revisionism in Lithuania. Due to his continued work in this field, as well as his ongoing legal efforts with multiple state agencies in Lithuania, he is especially notable in the field of Holocaust Revisionism. Additionally, his status as a prominent member in the field of international affairs within Los Angeles must be recognized, thus doubly confirming his notability. --Stephenson b (talk) 01:01, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: Stephenson b is the author of the article.
 * Stephenson b: please provide in-depth independent sources to back up the notability claims. Wikipedia needs more than passing mentions and self-published or otherwise non-independent sources to establish notability. Renata (talk) 16:17, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Renata: To establish notability: This Times of Israel article focuses on Gochin's ongoing lawsuit and places it relative to Holocaust Revisionism in Lithuania. The latter half of this Politico article explores in-depth Gochin's case and the relationship between his research and the work of Silvia Foti, also notable in the field of Lithuanian Holocaust Revisionism. This Haaretz article (published by one of the most widely recognized and trusted Israeli-based news sources) specifically explores Gochin and his case against the Lithuanian government. This is an official statement from the Genocide and Resistance Research Center of Lithuania that explicitly responds to Gochin's lawsuit and dismisses his efforts as part of their ongoing court case. This is just a handful of the third party sources that I was able to find that explicitly mention Grant Gochin in detail and focus on his work. He did not personally author nor publish these works, but he is mentioned in-depth and focused on in these articles. Based on these high-profile mentions in the field of Holocaust Revisionism alone, I believe his notability is established. Stephenson b (talk) 02:43, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Stephenson b: None of these cited sources are about Gochin. They are about the lawsuit and the controversy, and Gochin is just interviewed about it (and not say about his life, work, or hobbies). These sources would make a case for the article on the controversy, not for the article on Gochin. See also WP:BIO1E. Renata (talk) 19:06, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: There does not appear to be a consensus yet.

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 * Weak delete. Commendable activism, but not enough coverage to pass WP:NBIO. Ping User:Icewhiz who may find this subject of interest. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 12:21, 13 September 2019 (UTC)


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