Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gravity Noir


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. ✗ plicit  02:27, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

Gravity Noir

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Came across this over at the AfD for the film Ankh, which is also heavily promoted here... Non-notable band. The "charts" used are not any sort of national charts we recognize at wiki (Apple music and N1M, top charts.com) and the rest of the sourcing is in blogs, Imdb and youtube. Not seeing MUSIC or GNG. Oaktree b (talk) 01:41, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Oaktree b (talk) 01:41, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Gsearch goes straight to social media and streaming sites. There is ONE hit in Gnews, talking about the film that's not notable either. Some strange cross-wiki promotional rabbit hole I've fallen down. Oaktree b (talk) 01:42, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 08:42, 5 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Top charts.com is run by MyTuner. How does Top Charts work? Every day MyTuner gathers a high volume of data about the most played songs on streaming platforms, iTunes downloads and airplay on over 50,000 radio stations on the myTuner platform. They compile all the information available on the different platforms and, based on our algorithms, publish the tops of the most played songs by country and music genre. Does Apple Music contribute to Billboard charts? Currently, the Billboard Hot 100 songs counts streams through on-demand services such as Amazon Music, Apple Music, Spotify and YouTube as being worth more than streams through programmed services like Pandora and Slacker Radio. Trix18365 (talk) 08:50, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
 * We don't classify streaming services as notable, mostly because streams can be bought to boost numbers and they're numbers aren't audited as confirmation. Oaktree b (talk) 11:38, 5 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Belgium-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 09:12, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete - I'm in agreement with the nominator. There is almost no independent coverage of this band, despite being active for over 3 decades. None of the alleged awards or charting positions confer notability either. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 09:42, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
 * The Belgian premiere will take place at the end of June. The theater's website provides clear information about the feature film, a performance by Gravity Noir, and even a red carpet moment. I have now omitted this information from the article. This is to avoid giving the impression of advertising. The show is almost completely sold out. We can therefore assume that this will receive the necessary press and media attention. I think it would be premature to have the article removed. Trix18365 (talk) 16:36, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
 * We're looking at coverage for the band, a film premiere doesn't add to notability here. Oaktree b (talk) 02:19, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Please have another look. The theater's website clearly states that the film screening will be introduced by a surprise performance by GRAVITY NOIR. In addition, Gravity Noir and Patrick Knight are mentioned several times. Trix18365 (talk) 07:32, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
 * It's a promotional website for the film, related to the subject at hand here. We need third-party sources discussing the band, not an article saying where they've shown up to present something. Oaktree b (talk) 15:15, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep - Therefore we can assume that this Belgian film première and the live performance of the band presenting its new lead singer will receive the necessary press and media attention (third-party sources discussing the band). Once again, I think it would be premature to have the article removed. Trix18365 (talk) 16:46, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
 * then we could perhaps drafity it until then, there is no notability otherwise. Oaktree b (talk) 20:02, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
 * The film article was deemed non-notable, I doubt it helps notability that this point. "Band guys show up to a place for a thing" isn't notable. If the "thing" (the film) isn't notable, being there as a group doesn't help notability, other than confirming they're a group I suppose. Oaktree b (talk) 20:25, 11 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete, part of a walled garden of (self?-)promotional articles for a non-notable artist and his non-notable band, albums, film, ... Fram (talk) 08:22, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete - This is a bizarre case of failing sideways for 33 years. First, the band has no biography or reviews at AllMusic, and even though that site can be sloppy, at least they know when bands deserve coverage. Otherwise, the band has many "awards" but not a single one of them is from a notable ceremony and many are self-promotional scams in which you can pay to be nominated and then tell people you won an award, with a smiley picture from the stage to boot. The band appears in a lot of online sources but those are routinely unreliable hype services and sites that reprint self-promotions. The fact that the band and its management have kept this charade going for so many decades is mind-boggling, but kudos to them if they've made a living. Just keep WP out of it. ---  DOOMSDAYER 520 (TALK&#124;CONTRIBS) 14:26, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete - no significant, reliable coverage. BoomboxTestarossa (talk) 05:16, 11 May 2023 (UTC)


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