Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Great Green Gobs of Greasy, Grimy Gopher Guts


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was RESULT:Keep as nominaton withdrawn. SYSS Mouse 20:50, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Great Green Gobs of Greasy, Grimy Gopher Guts


This is a non-notable song with only the lyrics and variations. Cnriaczoy42 22:05, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Retract my nomination I liked this song and did not asume that it had this history. I didn't mention copyright, I just thought since the past version was only lyrics and at that point I didn't know about the history of the song this was not notable. Since this version of the article actually teaches me something I retract my nominaton. Cnriaczoy42 19:57, 27 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete, non-notable and fails WP:SINGLE. Jayden54 22:08, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete nn notable and the title is irksome. Seriously, though, the lyrics are most likely copyrighted and it's possible they should'nt be here. More than that which school children in which country sing this?-- John Lake 22:13, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. I've removed the lyrics. MER-C 14:03, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge to The Old Gray Mare. Common and popular variant lyrics.  Powers T 14:41, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
 * See also Articles for deletion/The Diarrhea Song, where this very article was mentioned, even before it was created. Note that The Diarrhea Song was kept.  Powers T 14:46, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Strong keep. This is a perfectly legitimate folklore topic.  Not sure why the example set of the lyrics was deleted; they can hardly be a copyright violation, although there are many, many variants.  Google has more than 13,000 hits for the quoted phrase "greasy grimy gopher guts", so the song obviously has received some popular attention, and the article in its current state observes that it has received academic attention as well.  I may try to find the Sherman-Weiskopff book on ILL. - Smerdis of Tlön 14:57, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment - I've expanded the article a bit. A recording appears on a Smithsonian Folkways compilation, which gives a 1959 date of its original collection on an earlier album of songs performed at children's camps.  I've added information about the Smithsonian record to the article. - Smerdis of Tlön 17:31, 27 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Keep. And it's schoolchildren over here in California that sing it. -Amarkov blahedits 15:37, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment - I know that the song was sung in southern Ontario during the late 1960s. I suspect it's attested throughout North America at minimum.  This is another reason why I doubt strongly that the lyrics are copyrighted. - Smerdis of Tlön 17:04, 27 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Strong keep. Notable, and obviously verifiable.  Lyrics, however, should obviously be removed. --badlydrawnjeff talk 16:09, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep (edit conflict). It's been the subject of folklore books and it's even had a children's book series named after it (I think the others are called "Mutiliated monkey meat" and "chopped up birdies feet", but it's been a while since I read them.) --Wafulz 17:11, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep verifiable, and of interest to some. Trollderella 18:03, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep has references: a record from the Smithsonian in the 1950's, a book title which got 2 reviews in the trade press. It has been around the U.S for decades. "No author nor copyright in the song is credited on the Smithsonian recording." so I would not worry too much about the original lyricist asserting his copyright. Edison 19:12, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep, including the lyrics. Well-sourced for an article on something as hard to pin down as a children's song! The original source is so obscure as to be effectively anonymous, so it's more or less in the public domain. Zetawoof(&zeta;) 19:52, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep, Very well known song. Everyone who's ever went to elementary school in the US/Canada knows it by heart.
 * Weak keep. Known as far away as Australia & New Zealand too (though not, I think, in the UK). Grutness...wha?  00:34, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep Stupid song, but notable.--T. Anthony 00:35, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.