Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Great Offices of State

Subjective and unsupported category
The term 'Great Offices of State' is surely totally subjective with no citations to support its justification. There are surely many 'Great' offices of state. If a recent published historian or political scientist can be cited with several references supporting the use of this term, then it may stay. Otherwise, it should be deleted with no standing beyond a subjective armchair term with no historical basis. Besides, what does 'great' mean? At best it sounds like something from Whig history from around 60 years ago.LarkinToad2010 (talk) 08:28, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
 * KEEPThe phrase is perfectly well-understood and long-established, adequately, if not amply supprted by references in the article which demonstrate its common use in UK political journalism. Not subjective at all. Ghughesarch (talk) 11:43, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
 * "Whig history from 60 years ago"? You mean 160, at least. However, while "Great Offices of State" may well be an "armchair" term, it's a widely used and well-understood one. Wikipedia is not a repository only for "official" political terms.
 * Other examples of "armchair" political terms include "Tory", "Foreign Secretary" and "Prime Minister" (Officially, "Conservative", "Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs" and "First Lord of the Treasury", respectively) - perhaps you would like to nominate those articles for deletion too? Ghughesarch (talk) 12:10, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
 * From the official website of the Conservative Party: http://www.conservatives.com/People/Members_of_Parliament/Clarke_Kenneth.aspx
 * "“Ken has extensive experience in government, spanning three decades. He has served in two of the four Great Offices of State: Chancellor and Home Secretary.”" So the current party of government use the term, whether it's "official" or not Ghughesarch (talk) 12:40, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Just noting that the nominator also failed to go through the proper procedure for nominating this article for deletion, and that it never appeared on the relevant AfD page. Ghughesarch (talk) 22:06, 10 September 2010 (UTC)